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We’re heading into 2026 with one goal: stop losing money.
Not “grow at all costs.” Not “try harder.” Just: build a healthy business that actually cash flows.
In this episode, John Wilson and Jack Carr break down what they’re cutting, tightening, and renegotiating in 2026 to go from ~13% EBITDA to 20% EBITDA—and why they’re also targeting 10% net profit after realizing how big the gap can be between EBITDA and real take-home profit.
They walk through the exact planning process they used this year (operational inputs → revenue → profit plan), then share the unsexy truth: most of the gains don’t come from some magic tactic… they come from relentless efficiency—marketing discipline, killing bloated software, renegotiating vendor terms, tightening material spend, and finding hidden leaks everywhere.
If you run a home service business (at any size), this is your 2026 playbook for getting healthy first—then scaling from strength.
In this episode, we cover:
🚀 What You’ll Learn:
🎙️ Hosts:
John Wilson: https://x.com/WilsonCompanies
Jack Carr: https://x.com/theHVACJack
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If you’re running a home service business and hiring feels slow, risky, or you’re just not seeing the leadership talent you need, TMV can help. They connect companies like yours with exceptional military veteran leaders, people who’ve already proven they can execute, adapt, and lead under pressure. And they do it fast, with a white-glove process that saves you weeks and avoids costly mis-hires.
Want to see who’s out there? Book a Free Coaching session HERE
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John Wilson, CEO of Wilson Companies
Jack Carr, CEO of Rapid HVAC
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We’re heading into 2026 with one goal: stop losing money.
Not “grow at all costs.” Not “try harder.” Just: build a healthy business that actually cash flows.
In this episode, John Wilson and Jack Carr break down what they’re cutting, tightening, and renegotiating in 2026 to go from ~13% EBITDA to 20% EBITDA—and why they’re also targeting 10% net profit after realizing how big the gap can be between EBITDA and real take-home profit.
They walk through the exact planning process they used this year (operational inputs → revenue → profit plan), then share the unsexy truth: most of the gains don’t come from some magic tactic… they come from relentless efficiency—marketing discipline, killing bloated software, renegotiating vendor terms, tightening material spend, and finding hidden leaks everywhere.
If you run a home service business (at any size), this is your 2026 playbook for getting healthy first—then scaling from strength.
In this episode, we cover:
🚀 What You’ll Learn:
🎙️ Hosts:
John Wilson: https://x.com/WilsonCompanies
Jack Carr: https://x.com/theHVACJack
⏱️Brought to you by The Military Veteran
If you’re running a home service business and hiring feels slow, risky, or you’re just not seeing the leadership talent you need, TMV can help. They connect companies like yours with exceptional military veteran leaders, people who’ve already proven they can execute, adapt, and lead under pressure. And they do it fast, with a white-glove process that saves you weeks and avoids costly mis-hires.
Want to see who’s out there? Book a Free Coaching session HERE
📞 Sponsored by Quo — The Modern Business Phone for Service Pros
Missed calls mean missed business. Quo (formerly OpenPhone) is the AI-powered phone system that logs calls, creates summaries, and automates follow-ups — keeping your team connected and customers happy.?
Send Us Mail!
More Ways To Connect with O&O
Leave a Review
John Wilson, CEO of Wilson Companies
Jack Carr, CEO of Rapid HVAC
📌 Disclaimer: Some links may include UTM parameters or affiliate relationships, meaning we may earn a commission if you make a purchase. Episodes may feature sponsors, but all opinions expressed are our own.

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