We talked to Jessie McLaughlin about “So Help Me God.” She shares with us about her experience of growing up Christian, the inner turmoil of taking it very seriously, and how she’s been healing from religious trauma through therapy. 

We love Jessie’s twitter feed where she talks about recovering from evangelicalism, hilarious day-to-day things, and you can see her design work on her instagram.

She sings on her husband's record, and our favorite song is Where We’re Going. (The album is Man Overboard by James and the Shame by Rhett McLaughlin, one half of the Good Mythical Morning YouTube). You can hear more about Jessie and Rhett's story of going on staff at Campus Crusade (Cru) and the process of leaving, as Rhett tells is here.

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We took some time to talk about the recent shooting in Colorado Springs, Colorado, and Focus on the Family, which is located there. We started this podcast analyzing their kid’s radio show Adventures in Odyssey, and covered a whole series that was specifically anti-LGBTQIA+ back in 2019 - the first episode of our season titled “Beginning to Untie the Ties That Bind.”

We mention Grace Baldridge’s documentary where they interview Jackie Hill Perry. Also, check out their music in spotify!

We also mention the Behind the Bastard’s podcast about James Dobson. 

Jenna DeWitt has a website of resources for LGBTQIA+ Christians and allies called Invisible Cake Society 

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Krispin interviews DL about starting out to as a Jesus Freak to wanting to be just like Dorothy Day to wanting to be herself. We talk about the perfectionism of growing up evangelical, and how that pressure can continue, even if you move on from the conservative framework you were raised with.

Make sure to check out DL's book Unruly Saint about Dorothy Day and how she started the Catholic Worker.

And here's a little article about the ferry in New York named after her.

Our most recent patreon-only episode, we discussed 2004's The Village and talked about cults (and whether white evangelicalism is a cult).

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Season nine of Prophetic Imagination Station is here!!

Before listening, go ahead and check out the music video for Jesus Freak.

We’re diving into the iconic album Jesus Freak by DC Talk, track by track.

In this introductory episode, Krispin and DL talk about the title track, examining the lyrics and context behind the song Jesus Freak. 

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Join us for the final episode of season 8! Krispin and Danielle talk about the classic purity culture read, I Kissed Dating Goodbye, Boy Meets Girl and When God Writes Your Love Story.

Krispin mentions Emotionally Focused Therapy—find more about that here.

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D.L. has a delightful conversation with Erin Moon about the very first Christian YA series, written by Robin Jones Gunn and published by Focus on the Family—the Christy Miller series. Beyond fun reminiscing and sharing personal experiences, we also uncover the not-so-subtle ulterior motives behind the popular novels (spoiler alert: it’s serving the patriarchy).

You can find Erin Moon on the socials @erinhmoon, on substack, and on her podcast, The Bible Binge. 

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TW: sexual assault, rape, abuse

D.L. once again revisits Redeeming Love with Dr. Alexiana Fry. We get more into the weeds of some of the problematic and traumatic elements in the novel itself, as well as Hosea, Judges, and the Bible in general. Trigger warning for violence, rape, and abuse.

Dr. Alexiana Fry (find her on Twitter) is an Old Testament scholar and professor of biblical studies, with a focus on trauma, feminism, and migration.

Dr. Fry references Nancy Nam Hoon Tan’s work from her book Resisting Rape Culture. 

Dr. Julia O’Brien’s work is also mentioned—check out her book Challenging Prophetic Metaphor. 

You can find more information about our Faith and Justice Network cohort here! We’d love to have you join us this fall to untangle white evangelism together.

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D.L. chats with Jenna DeWitt about Captivating, the highly-influential prescriptive romance guide for young Christian women in the early 2000s.

We tackle the harmful biases around gender roles and romance from an asexual and aromantic perspective.

Jenna DeWitt (follow her on Twitter!) is an editor and queer activist, focusing on educating people and providing resources on asexual and aromantic identities. Check out her blog for more info!

Also, as mentioned in the episode, here is the Spotify playlist curated by Jenna, Rainbow Faith. 

You can find more information about our Faith and Justice Network cohort here! We’d love to have you join us this fall to untangle white evangelism together.

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D.L. chats with Devi Abraham about the wildly popular novel (and now movie) Redeeming Love. 

We delve into some of the troubling elements of the story, discuss why it holds such an appeal for evangelical women, and touch on some related aspects of purity culture (Devi’s speciality!) as well. 

Devi Abraham is a writer and co-host of the podcast Where Do We Go from Here?, tackling sex and purity culture. Follow her on twitter @devi_writes and check out her website.

You can find more information about our Faith and Justice Network cohort here! We’d love to have you join us this fall to untangle white evangelism together.

We have a website—check it out for more information. You can also find us on Twitter and Instagram.

To support our show (we can’t do this without you!), join us on Patreon! You’ll get access to our monthly patron-only episodes (including the entire backlog), as well as occasional zoom hangouts. You can join this community for as little as $1.50 a month!

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D.L. chats with Valerie Weaver-Zercher about all things Amish Christian fiction! 

We explore the unique, multi-faceted world of Amish romance, how it ties into the larger evangelical world in general, why it’s so dominated by whiteness, and why it remains such a popular genre among evangelical women today. 

Valerie Weaver-Zercher is a writer and editor with Broadleaf Books (where D.L. is also an author). Check out her website and her book, which we discuss in this episode, Thrill of the Chaste.

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