Krispin explains addictive behaviors from an attachment perspective and asks whether Christianity offers any concrete help when we’re stuck in behaviors we want to stop. He talks with Heather Patton Griffin about how many churches approach growth and transformation, “try harder to mean it more,” and what often gets missed.

We keep talking about This From My Lips by Yours My Sin is Purged by As Cities Burn

You can follow Heather Patton Griffin on twitter - she has so many great twitter threads on these topics!

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"Oh how sweet is the sound / I know it saved, but is it changing a wretch like me?"

Krispin explores the angst around purity culture that shows up in Christian hardcore, and discusses with Dr. Bradley Onishi how this element of evangelical culture impacted the Atlanta Shooter's actions in March 2020.

Follow Brad on twitter and check out his podcast Straight White American Jesus, where he's discussed and responded to Tim Keller, Al Mohler and Jim Daly.

Check out Ruth Graham's article that quotes Onishi here.

Here are all the songs referenced in this episode:

Time Stands Still by Extol

Breaking My Own Heart by Haste the Day

A Boy Brushed Red Living in Black and White by Underoath

Stalemade by Project 86

that song by No Innocent Victim

Eye Candy by Trauma

A Green Desire by Dead Poetic

Run for Your Life (She calls) by Impending Doom

Face:Face by Norma Jean

This From My Lips by Yours My Sin is Purged by As Cities Burn

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Zech Bard designed artwork for the season and Forrest Johnson wrote and recorded theme music. 

Brandi Miller is the host of the Reclaiming My Theology Podcast. You can follow her on twitter and instagram. We talk about her love for Emery, end up talking a lot about Reese Roper, and also how theologies of sin have upheld oppressive power structures.

We talk about Listening to Freddie Mercury by Emery

…as well as Under Bridges by Brave Saint Saturn and Mr. Fahrenheit by Five Iron Frenzy.

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Krispin & DL talk about Bindside and “the gospel” message based on having a dirty, rotten heart. Krispin interviews Danielle Shroyer about original sin -- and original blessing.

Danielle Shroyer is a spiritual director, former pastor, speaker and author of Original Blessing and The Boundary-Breaking God. You can follow her on twitter.

You can listen to the two Blindside songs here and here. 

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Pádraig Ó Tuama is an Irish writer, poet & theologian. Host of On Being's Poetry Unbound podcast, he was recently named On Being's Theologian in Residence. From 2014-2019 he was the leader of the Corrymeela Community, Ireland's oldest peace and reconciliation organization. 

Our favorite book by Pádraig is In the Shelter, which was just re-relased last month with a foreward from Krista Tippet. 

You can follow him on twitter and instagram.

You can follow Heather Patton Griffin on twitter - she has so many great twitter threads on these topics!

You heard a voicemail from Zech Bard in this episode - who also did the wonderful artwork for the season!

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You can listen to the two Underoath songs here and here. 

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Soong Chan Rah is author of several books, including Prophetic Lament. You can follow him on twitter here.

Hillary McBride is the author of Mothers, Daughters, and Body Image. You can listen to her whole talk on emotions at Cascade Church (it’s great!). You can follow her on twitter and instagram.

Joel Harrison is currently working on a book tentatively titled “Palms of Victory, Crowns of Glory: Evangelical Political Identity and Underground Christian Punk.” You can follow him on twitter here.

Soong Chan Rah references Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes’ book I Bring the Voices of My People and The Burden of Black Religion by Chris Evans.

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You can listen to To Think of You is to Treasure a Distant Memory by Zao here. Check out the live video Krispin mentions here. 

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Dr. Leah Payne is a professor of Christian studies at George Fox University, author of Gender and Pentecostal Revivalism: Making a Female Ministry in the Early Twentieth Century and co-host for The Weird Religion Podcast. You can follow her on twitter here. She is currently working on a book on CCM and you can help her out by filling out her CCM survey, if you grew up listening to any kind of Christian music. 

You can follow Becky Castle Miller on twitter, instagram and buy her books here. Her full 50-minute interview is up over at Attached to the Invisible, where she talks more in depth about emotions, evangelicalism, and what following Jesus in our emotional life looks like. Here’s Bill Bright’s Four Spiritual Laws that Becky refers to in her interview. 

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Songs in this episode:

Adam, Soiled Rags and A Life Wasted Sleeping,by Nodes of Ranvier.

Memphis Will Be Laid to Waste by Norma Jean with Aaron Weiss with audio from a live recording from Furnace Fest 2002.

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Zech Bard designed artwork for the season and Forrest Johnson wrote and recorded theme music. 

To start off the Shamecore Records season, Krispin interviewed director Chris White and composer/musician, Daniel Smith about their recent movie Electric Jesus. At the end of the episode, D.L. shares a bit about forming an evanegalistic punk rock band when she was 13 years old. 

The soundtrack for Electric Jesus just released, and is filled with both Christian hair metal and Danielson’s weird indie rock. 

We’ve been a longtime of fan of Daniel Smith’s music as Daielson, and one of our favorite albums is Fetch the Compass Kids.

You can watch a whole documentary about Danielson here and it is wonderful.

Here is the Believer article about Danielson that D.L. mentions.

Next week, we’ll really dive into talking about Christian hardcore and the emotional experience of growing up evangelical. 

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D.L.’s most recent book The Myth of the American Dream is also available! 

After D.L. talked about Frank Peretti on the Good Christian Fun podcast, we decided to release this episode for the general public, a Patreon-only episode from a year ago when we talked about The Cooper Kids and The Door in the Dragon's Throat.

Become a Patreon for $1.50, $4 or $8 per month and get monthly episodes like this one and dive into our back catalogue of episodes about WOW 1999, Brio Magazine and other evangelical artifacts

D.L. and Krispin discuss The Last Battle in the last episode of the series, and D.L. reads an essay we wrote together about the parallels between The Last Battle and American Christianity.

Our 6th season, Shamecore Records is coming in March!

Join us at our Patreon for some patreon-only episodes until then!