I have such a fun show for you today! You are getting a sneak peek into a conversation with one of my oldest friends, Pam Fierst-Walsh. This is Pam’s second time on the show. It’s so fun to record with a friend. I even forget we were on a podcast at one point because this is just who we are and how we talk. 

As you will hear, Pam and I recently went on a retreat together. During the trip, Pam impromptu asked if we could record a special summer episode, and here it is! It’s perfect timing as the leaves are changing here in Chicago and the weather is starting to change. This show is a great way to wrap up summer and to focus on a fun and deep topic – spiritual friendship. 

During today’s podcast, Pam and I discussed:

1. That we have been friends for 27 years and we haven’t aged a day!
2. What motivated Pam to join me in Montana for the retreat.
3. How Pam and I met in 1998 and almost bumped into one another in 1997.
4. What the definitions of spiritual friendship and doppelganger are.
5. The impact our friendship has had on both of us.
6. If we can’t spend a lot of time together because we are so similar and the energetic connection is strong.
7. And Pam’s most recent advice on the 1-2 ways women can be braver at work!

Here is more about Pam:

Pamela Fierst-Walsh is the Vice President of Government Affairs for North America with the DeBeers Group. Pamela is the former VP of Traceability at PVH where she worked with the Tommy Hilfiger and Calvin Klein brands on global traceability objectives. She is also the former CEO of her consultancy, PFW Advisory, where she provided advisory services for regulatory and supply chain needs, particularly with respect to environmental, social, and governance (ESG) concerns.