We talked to Australian showrunner and writer Tony Ayres.

He talks about his Netflix show The Survivors, comparing himself to others and the balance between commerce and art.

We explore his Chinese-Australian roots, the benefits and disbenefits of being niche and how Australia sees Hollywood and Hollywood sees Australian.

We also cover the changing language of Hollywood, how he has changed to adapt to the industry and the blessing and the curse of being attached to The Slap.