Podcast friend and fan-favorite Lily Lester is back for another UNCUT SUMMER SESSION! Despite our best efforts to stay above the fray, we could not resist diving into the discourse around Taylor Swift renting out Madison Square Garden for her wedding — over July 4th weekend, during the World Cup, in one of the busiest cities on Earth. Right or wrong? We debate the ethics of it all.

But before we get into ALL THAT, we talk how Lily chats about her viral take where she compares men who play video games to wanting to experience what it's like to be a woman and the insane responses she got from incels— plus a bunch of other fun tangents. We laughed so hard recording this one.

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