00:00 - Introduction

02:01 - Introducing Team Orenda

10:08 - Introducing Terry Arko, from HASA

13:35 - Terry's role at HASA

16:01 - Bob Lowry's Pool Chemistry Training Institute

17:08 - HASA and Orenda's education conflicts in some ways

22:58 - More in common than in conflict

26:56 - Wrap up. Thanks for listening!

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