Who better to talk about the current state of 401k than the man who started it all. In the late 1970s Ted Benna, father of the 401k, discovered an obscure provision of the tax code and developed it into the premier savings vehicle for millions of Americans.

He joins us to discuss what he sees as the good and the bad in today’s DC design, the innovation that excites him, and why he has a real problem with one state’s auto-IRA.