Terror Talk: True Crime, Serial Killers and Horror

We bring you Jason Goes to Hell and Jason X, then we discuss our horror reads and watches including The Southern Book Club's Guide to Slaying Vampires, Voices in the Snow, Nocturnal, Black as Night, mother!, #Like, Raw, plus Horror Facts with Cath trivia. 

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Happy Halloween! We bring you Scarecrow movies including Amityville Scarecrow, Curse of the Scarecrow, Husk, Messengers 2: The Scarecrow, Hollowed Ground, Scarecrows, C.O.R.N. Field of Screams, Halloween Jack, Dark Night of the Scarecrow, Kakashi, then we discuss our horror watches including the books Rosemary's Baby, Final Girl Support Group, Night Teeth, His House, Fever Dream, I am Lisa, Madres, The Manor, plus Horror Facts with Cath trivia. We through in a couple of listener stories in between our segments. 

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Our full re-watch of the Friday the 13th franchise continues with Friday the 13th: The New Blood and Friday the 13th: Jason Takes Manhattan, then we discuss our horror watches including The Haunted Vagina, Nocturnal, No One Goes Alone, There's Someone Inside Your House, No One Gets Out Alive, VHS 94, The Blade in the Dark, You're Next, Black as Night, plus the new and improved Horror Facts with Cath game.

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The Halloween spirit is in full swing in the studio with treats and gifts and merch plus we chat about the new Halloween trilogy and a discussion of the Halloween franchise, which we do from time to time, then we discuss our horror books and watches including Fever Dream, Rosemary's Baby, Midnight Mass, Old, Bad Candy, Bingo Hell, plus a whole new circle of hell with the new and improved Horror Facts with Cath game.

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Our full re-watch of the Friday the 13th franchise continues with Friday the 13th A New Beginning and Friday the 13th Jason Lives then we discuss our horror watches including The Fanatic (Fred Durst), We need to do Something, Hosts, Nightbooks, Martyrs Lane, plus a whole new circle of hell with the new and improved Horror Facts with Cath game. 

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How does a three year old learn to arrange every knife in the house on a sleeping woman's pillow?

⚠️ Trigger warning: This episode includes discussion of child abuse, sexual abuse in a family, and films depicting suicide and sexual assault.

Late September 2021. The second half of Ted Bundy's childhood, then Midsommar, Creepshow, and a haunted farmhouse going for 1.2 million dollars.

TED BUNDY, PART TWO OF THE CHILDHOOD

Aunt Julia woke from a nap to find him standing over her, three years old, smiling, every knife from the kitchen drawer laid on her pillow with the points aimed at her face. The more frightened she got, the more he seemed to enjoy it.

Then the rest. Ann Rule, the crisis hotline where she worked beside him, and The Stranger Beside Me. A boy raised to believe his mother was his sister, who worked out by ten that he was living inside a lie. Louise leaving Philadelphia for Tacoma. Uncle Jack, the first decent man in the story. Johnnie Bundy, a hospital cook, and Ted's contempt for him.

Cathy on why the violent grandfather stayed the admired one and Johnnie, ordinary and kind, never stood a chance. Daniel Shaw on traumatic narcissism, and why one child in an abusive house identifies with the power while another disappears.

Then the part that earns the relisten. Shannon on what it takes to work with a rigid narcissist. You let them believe they are manipulating you, which younger therapists hear as placating and refuse to do. The difference is not that you have no ego, it is that you can set yours down and pick it back up. They cannot. Ted let Bill Hagmaier in for that reason. Johnnie Bundy was never a worthy adversary.

MIDSOMMAR AND HEREDITARY

Cathy finally watched Midsommar after years of putting it off, and understands why she waited. Ari Aster, Florence Pugh, and a verdict a lot of people share: one of the most powerful films she has ever seen, and she will never sit through it again. Both hosts on which of the two sticks its ending.

THE REST OF THE WATCHES

The Shudder Elvira marathon: Elvira Mistress of the Dark, House on Haunted Hill, City of the Dead, Messiah of Evil.

Creepshow season three, episode one, and why pure fan service is not an insult. The Strange House, the Austrian haunted house film on Netflix. The Guilty with Jake Gyllenhaal. Halloween Wars.

BOOKS

The Whisper Man by Alex North, Fever Dream by Samanta Schweblin ahead of the Shudder film, and The Final Girl Support Group ranked against Horrorstor and My Best Friend's Exorcism.

ALSO

The real Conjuring farmhouse is for sale in Burrillville, Rhode Island. Bathsheba Sherman, Ed and Lorraine Warren, fourteen rooms, 1.2 million. The Stranger Things season four teaser with Robert Englund as Victor Creel. Britney Spears' father files to end the conservatorship, and Cathy on competency when the person assessing it is the one being questioned. Texas Chainsaw Massacre at Halloween Horror Nights, and misdirection as the only jump scare that works.

Horror Facts with Cath: Dracula, hypertrichosis, and what Freddy Krueger was accused of.

ALL EIGHT PARTS ARE ON THE FEED

Search Terror Talk plus SHRINK CHAT for: No Man of God; Midsommar; the Hillside Strangler; Ann Rule; Janice Ott; Kimberly Leach; Carole Ann Boone; and Georgann Hawkins.

Got a haunted story of your own? Send it to [email protected] and we may read it on the show.

Two licensed therapists, one forensic psychologist, one clinical LMFT, take apart the minds behind the crimes.

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Halloween and Horror News! Our full re-watch of the Friday the 13th franchise with Friday the 13th iii and Friday the 13th The Final Chapter, then we discuss horror books we are reading and a horror book and merch haul including The Whisper Man, Darcy Coates House of Shadows and House of Secrets, The Final Girl Support Group, The Women in Cabin 10, The Turn of the Key, The Line Between, The Shadows. We discuss our recent horror watches which include Slasher Season 4, What We Do in the Shadows, The Old Ways, Frankenweenie, plus a whole new circle of hell with the new and improved Horror Facts with Cath game. 

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Two Ted Bundy films came out in 2021. One is very good. One is not. Can you guess which?

⚠️ Trigger warning: This episode includes discussion of a school shooting and murder suicide, teen depression and suicide, child abuse and incest, and a teenage character sexualised on screen.

September 2021. Two new Bundy films reviewed back to back, then the start of a relisten of their own first Ted Bundy series, with three years of hindsight cut in on top.

NO MAN OF GOD (2021)

Amber Sealey's film about FBI analyst Bill Hagmaier's interviews with Bundy on death row. Luke Kirby as Bundy, Elijah Wood as Hagmaier. Two therapists on why it works: the close shots, a climax built on a mask coming off rather than a murder, and a performance that lets you feel what it was like to sit across from him.

Then the clinical part, which is the reason to listen. Hagmaier was a school counsellor before the FBI, and the film shows him using self disclosure as a timed intervention. Shannon on what that is: you do not break a narcissist's reality, you become the perfect mirror, the echo of the self he believes he has, and you stroke the ego exactly enough that he never asks why he is teaching you. Cathy on how readable Bundy was when the mask dropped, and on Ann Rule, whose relationship with him the film downplays.

TED BUNDY: AMERICAN BOOGEYMAN (2021)

From the people who made The Haunting of Sharon Tate, which tells you most of it. Chad Michael Murray as Bundy, Lin Shaye as his mother. Shannon watched it so you do not have to: we do not need another film that walks us through the murders.

THE RELISTEN BEGINS

Their first Ted Bundy series, recorded in year one on two phones in two houses. Shannon explains what she did to rescue the audio rather than pretend. Then the first nine minutes play, with new commentary cut in on top.

In it: Eleanor Louise Cowell, twenty two and unmarried, giving birth in a home for unwed mothers in Burlington, Vermont, 1946. The father nobody has ever identified. Samuel the grandfather, the pornography, the dogs, the daughters thrown down the stairs. A boy raised inside a lie about who his mother was.

And Cathy, listening back to herself, saying the thing that shapes everything after: Bundy as a serial killer is not that interesting. The childhood is.

ALSO IN THIS EPISODE

American Tragedy (2019), the Sue Klebold documentary about Columbine. Cathy on why framing that killing as depression is both a good message and a dangerous one, and on who gets called mentally ill and who gets called a terrorist.

Horror watches: Carrie (1976) and Poltergeist as a double feature, and a long look at what Carrie's opening does to its own lead. Here Comes Hell (2019). Superhost (2021) with Gracie Gillam and Barbara Crampton. Frankenstein and the Monster from Hell (1974) with Peter Cushing. American Horror Story season ten.

Horror news: Carter Smith and Jena Malone reunite for Swallowed, and Guillermo del Toro's Cabinet of Curiosities gets its title.

Horror Facts with Cath: the first Dracula film, King Tut, and Bridget Bishop.

ALL EIGHT PARTS ARE ON THE FEED

Search Terror Talk plus SHRINK CHAT for: No Man of God; Midsommar; the Hillside Strangler; Ann Rule; Janice Ott; Kimberly Leach; Carole Ann Boone; and Georgann Hawkins.

Got a haunted story of your own? Send it to [email protected] and we may read it on the show.

Two licensed therapists, one forensic psychologist, one clinical LMFT, take apart the minds behind the crimes.

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Halloween and Horror News! Our full rewatch of the Friday the 13th franchise begins with Friday the 13th and Friday the 13th part 2, then we discuss horror books like The Fullcroft Ghosts by Darcy Coates, and our recent watches including Demonic (2021), Freaky, Reminiscence, Babysitter Killer & Babysitter Killer Queen, and Dave Made a Maze plus a whole new circle of hell with the new and improved Horror Facts with Cath game. 

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First up, Halloween Events! Then we dig in to the case Britney Spears is mounting against her conservatorship plus Cathy discusses a local case of a young boy who was betrayed by the CPS system. We discuss our recent horror book reads and watches including WWZ, My Best Friend's Exorcism, Candyman, Demonic (2015), American Horror Story Season 10 plus a whole new circle of hell with the new and improved Horror Facts with Cath game. We also mention several shops and events: Oblong Box Shop, Plague Rat Shop, Oogie Boogie Nights, Halloween Horror Nights, Home Haunts, Dark Harbor and Awaken The Spirits. 

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