Welcome back for season two of That’s How I Remember It. I’m thrilled to kick off this season with a conversation with the incredible George Saunders. George has written some of my favorite recent fiction, and his 2022 book Liberation Day is a fascinating story collection that we get into deeply here. We talk about Johnny Tremain, humor in stories, drawing on memories of old jobs, late stage capitalism, gentle revolution, and so much more. We even spoke a bit about songwriting at the end of the episode. I was honored to have such an amazing mind join me here, and I’m so excited to be back with another season of the podcast. Listen, subscribe, and stay tuned for more upcoming episodes.

Katy Kirby will be joining myself and The Uptown Controllers on tour starting next week so I caught up with her on this special flash episode of That’s How I Remember It. Katy was in the parking lot of the Belly Up Tavern in Solana Beach CA when she dialed in, so there’s a little ambient noise, but that’s life on the road. And perhaps it added to our discussion about learning to sing harmonies, quality of light as a memory trigger, the making of her amazing record Cool Dry Place, the oranges that show up in her songs, and the tour we are embarking on. So cool to speak to one of my favorite songwriters, looking forward to seeing her set each night. Season 2 of THIRI coming up before too long, listen and subscribe.

Today I fly out to start the Uptown Controllers tour this weekend in Odense, Denmark. To celebrate, we’re releasing this flash episode where I have a small chat with Scott Lavene, who will be supporting on most of the dates. Scott is a brilliant songwriter who released one of my favorite records in recent memory, “Milk City Sweethearts”. We talked about the record and the upcoming tour. Check out craigfinn.net for all upcoming tour dates and I hope to see you on the road!

Adam Duritz is my guest on this week’s That’s How I Remember It and I am quite psyched about it. Adam is obviously the singer and songwriter of platinum selling band Counting Crows, and has been making thoughtful and great music for decades now. I met Adam when Counting Crows took THS on tour in Europe/UK in 2009 and was so excited he agreed to do this. We talked about how the details matter so much in songs, each of our first trips to Asbury Park, loving Christmas music, that dog., last year's fantastic Counting Crows EP, bootlegs, and the way that light attaches to a girl. That’s a wrap on season one of That’s How I Remember It; we’ll be back with season two before long. Listen, subscribe, and keep your eye on this space for tour updates, etc. Stay Positive!

Maggie Smith is my guest on this week’s That’s How I Remember It. Maggie is the author of four full length poetry collections, the most recent being Goldenrod from 2021. She also wrote Keep Moving, an essay collection about loss, creativity, and change. Maggie is the author of "Good Bones," a poem that went viral in 2016 and reached a massive audience across the globe; the last line of that poem “You could make this place beautiful” is the title of her forthcoming memoir in 2023. We spoke about writing for yourself first, '80s music, nostalgia as a medical diagnosis, writing as springtime, memorials, saying things out loud when you see them, and a memoir being more of a “tell-some” than a “tell-all.” Great talk, huge thanks to Maggie for joining me. Listen and subscribe to hear even more fascinating guests on That’s How I Remember It.

Tom Perrotta is my guest on this week’s That's How I Remember It. Tom is a fantastic author of at least eight novels, many of which have been made into films and TV series. This includes Election, Little Children, Mrs. Fletcher, and The Leftovers. On this episode we talk about his decision to revisit the Election character Tracy Flick in his new novel Tracy Flick Can’t Win, and his approach. We also spoke about high school reunions, nostalgia, personal narratives, how he uses smaller stories to connect to national conversations, and how TV and film adaptations affect his own relationship with his work. This was such a cool talk; I hope you’ll check it out and subscribe.

That’s How I Remember It is taking a break from hosting guests this week as we gear up for the final few episodes of Season 1. Instead, we are featuring this "Flash Episode," where I talk about the upcoming tour I’m doing with The Uptown Controllers in UK/Europe and North America. Listen up to hear some thoughts on all the dates, the support, the band, and the origin of the band name. Check out craigfinn.net for all the dates and tickets. We will return with an amazing guest next week as we push towards the end of Season 1 in the next few weeks. Listen and subscribe!

Emily Haines is my guest on this week’s That's How I Remember It. Emily is the lead singer and a songwriter in Canadian rock band Metric who have a 20 year career and recently released their powerful new record Formentera. She’s also released solo music as Emily Haines & The Soft Skeleton. We talked about writing love songs to friends, searching for a past version of NYC, working out your problems in a song, the '90s, the very many ways you can have your heart broken in modern times, being in a band for two decades, and her performance with Broken Social Scene at Lollapalooza 2006. Huge thanks to Emily for joining, it was a lot of fun and I hope you’ll listen and subscribe.

Allison Moorer is my guest on this week’s That’s How I Remember It, and it’s a great one. Allison is a wildly accomplished singer, songwriter, producer, and author. Beginning her recording career in 1997, she has released 10 albums. In 2019, she published her first memoir, Blood, about her early years and family. Earlier this year, she released her second book, I Dream He Talks to Me, as well as an EP of music she recorded with her son John Henry. We talked about all of this, as well as: memory as a defense mechanism, hiding from life in art, the honesty that shows up in details, and her desire to learn the cello. Huge thanks to Allison for joining us. Please listen and subscribe — we’ve got more great guests ahead on That’s How I Remember It.

John Darnielle is my guest on this week’s That’s How I Remember It. John has been making brilliant music as The Mountain Goats since 1991. Originally a solo lo-fi bedroom project, TMG has grown into a lush rock & roll juggernaut. John has also written four great novels, the most recent being Devil House, which we talked about here. We also talked about activated charcoal, local crime obsession, consciousness of sin, and whether the amazing new Mountain Goats record Bleed Out is their Age of Quarrel. Huge thanks to John for bringing a great conversation here. Listen, subscribe, and stay tuned for more awesome guests on That’s How I Remember It.