We hope you're thirsty for KNOWLEDGE this Thursday because we've got a new episode coming in hot, a day early! And we've got a surprise for you tomorrow too!

You might think of the Amish as quiet, quaint folks in buggies selling homemade stuff, but there's a lot more beneath the surface. Join us as Fallon tells Ash all about the secretive world of the Amish. From shocking abuses against women and children to the dark side of puppy mills - get ready for a wild rollercoaster of revelations that will leave you questioning everything you thought you knew about Amish life.

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-Audio editing by Kim Shockley
-Research by Peggie Brott
-Sources:

• To be or not to be Amish: Rumspringa by Tom Shachtman
• Sins of the Amish documentary, Peacock
• Reflections and Memories of an Amish Misfit by Mary Byler 
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96RGRjyTTNI&t=1576s
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taK2L6hRYPo
• https://web-dvm.net/amish-are-among-the-worst-puppy-mill-offenders/
• https://www.wkrn.com/news/local-news/nashville/antioch-rescue-working-to-free-dogs-from-large-ohio-based-amish-puppy-mill/
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15R3V8r3gR8&t=4186s
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish
• https://groups.etown.edu/amishstudies/social-organization/government/?doing_wp_cron=1707810677.9785380363464355468750
• https://bailingoutbenji.com/
• https://www.humanesociety.org/sites/default/files/docs/HSUS_Horrible-Hundred-2023.pdf
• https://www.humanesociety.org/
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQaCuINxvpU
• https://www.amishheritage.org/this-devastating-lawsuit-destroys-your-right-to-learn/
• https://www.amishheritage.org/this-is-what-happens-when-religion-outweighs-childrens-rights/
• https://newsinteractive.post-gazette.com/coverings/mennonites-forgiveness-sexual-abuse-coverings-plain-amish-lancaster-county/
• https://newsinteractive.post-gazette.com/coverings/mennonites-amish-sexual-abuse-plain-coverings-lancaster-whispering-hope-intervention/
• https://tarrant.tx.networkofcare.org/dv/news-article-detail.aspx?id=110710
• https://www.amishbaskets.com/blogs/blog/amish-shunning-rules
• https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/heres-a-closer-look-into-whispering-hope-other-amish-and-plain-mental-health-facilities/article_db461afa-3fa2-11ea-9fa2-e329e664f8a9.html
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9Ls34mDZpw
• https://www.themisfitamish.com/
• https://people.com/crime/sins-of-the-amish-inside-amish-sex-abuse-survivor-quest-for-justice/
• https://www.legalaffairs.org/issues/January-February-2005/feature_labi_janfeb05.msp
• https://time.com/6250526/women-talking-mennonite-bolivia-real-story/

Get ready for a jaw-dropping episode as we dive into the wild world of Robert Shinn and the Shekinah Church.

ALLEGEDLY, this asshole former-doctor-turned-pastor has swindled tens of millions from his followers while keeping a low profile in LA's luxury scene. Ash tells Fallon all about the bizarre teachings, control tactics, and shocking allegations of mind control, coercion, and even sexual misconduct.

Join us as we explore the twisted tale of this "Man of God" who ALLEGEDLY built his empire on the backs of his followers.

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-Audio Editing by Dallas Hernandez.
-Research Assistance by Kristen Jones.
-Sources:
https://deadline.com/2022/05/7m-films-hbo-max-campfire-nile-cappello-chrissy-teigen-1235021670/amp/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh5WRGT8ch8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdKdqgW5G2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGhKa6Y11TM
https://forums.forteana.org/index.php?threads/7m-films-aka-shekinah-church-their-tik-tok-cult-ninja-sheep.69447/
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/7m-films-tiktok-dance-cult-allegations-miranda-wilking-james-derrick-1323200/
https://meaww.com/shekinah-church-cult-claims-miranda-derrick-tiktoker-7-m-films-case
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/7m-dancers-sue-alleging-robert-shinn-runs-cult-1234701158/
https://www.the-sun.com/news/4933923/pastor-tiktok-cult-shekinah-miranda-derrick/
https://culteducation.com/group/1371-shekinah-church.html?tmpl=component&print=1
https://gomiblog.com/the-wilking-sisters-drama-is-the-mindless-popcorn-munching-event-you-need-right-now/
https://www.thecut.com/2022/05/wilking-sisters-7m-allegations.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10632181/Family-claimed-TikTok-star-daughter-abducted-cult-slammed-PATHETIC.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Mountain_Mandate

Get ready for this wide ride! This week, Fallon tells Ash about the tragic and bizarre saga of Dean and Tina Clouse.

1978, New Smyrna Beach, Florida —Dean (19) and Tina (15) fall madly in love, get hitched, and have a baby. Then, in 1980, their perfect life takes a dark turn when they move to Texas and suddenly vanish. Their decomposed bodies are found near Houston, murdered in cold blood. Cue the mysterious robed women who returns their car, claiming Dean joined their cult—seriously, what?!?! Decades later, in a shocking twist, genealogical detectives find Holly alive and well in Oklahoma in 2022. Seriously, this story has everything: love, murder, cults - you name it!


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-Audio editing by Malissa Coulson.
-Research by Peggie Brott.
-Sources:
https://people.com/crime/inside-holly-marie-clouse-investigation-found-alive-40-years-disappearance-parents-murdered/
https://people.com/inside-42-year-long-missing-persons-case-baby-holly-marie-how-they-found-her-8399229
https://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/investigators-reveal-unprecedented-murder-case-baby-holly-parents-104605797
Https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wikiMurders of Dean and Tina Clouse
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/investigators-search-clues-case-murdered-parents-baby-holly/story?id=96691708
https://fox4kc.com/news/baby-holly-found-alive-40-years-after-florida-couple-murdered-in-texas-woods/amp/
https://www.unilad.com/news/us-news/colorado-five-year-old-inducted-mensa-top-one-percent-644130-20240308MissingKids.org
https://www.missingkids.org › blogBaby Holly's Untold StoryMedium · Spoiler TV1 month agoDean And Tina Clouse Murders — Who Killed Them?Solve the Case
https://www.solvethecase.org › caseMURDER - Harold Dean ClouseTexas Attorney General (.gov)
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov › ...Attorney General Paxton's Cold Case and Missing Persons Unit Locates …
https://abc.com/shows/2020/episode-guide/2023-11/03-baby-holly-found
https://www.texasobserver.org/who-killed-dean-and-tina-clouse/
https://spoilertv.info/dean-and-tina-clouse-murders/
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/article/baby-holly-found-houston-murders-18504169.php
https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/2022/6/14/23165766/baby-holly-who-is-she-where-has-she-been-what-happened-tina-gail-linn-clouse-harold-dean-clouse-jr/
Crime Nerds Podcast: Episode 83
Crimelines Podcast: Season 5, Episode 43
Going West Podcast: The Clouse Family eps. 286
True Crime Psychology and Personality Podcast: Holly Marie Clouse

We now have FIFTEEN episodes filled with Biblical fun on our Patreon, so we've decided to start sharing the magic. Every month we'll be releasing a past Bible episode here on the regular feed! We've compiled the first 3 episodes of "Ash and Michelle Do the Bible" for your listening pleasure... make sure to listen to those HERE before digging into this episode!

This week, former co-host Michelle Mosher wraps up Genesis with the following stories, and it's a wild ride:

• Abraham - The Coward
• Isaac's Sacrifice
• Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat
• Judah and Tamar

Join us here on the free feed next month for the first official episode of "Ash Learns the Bible" (remember the first four episodes were called "Ash and Michelle Do the Bible"), or listen to any and all episodes NOW on Patreon.


Ash started her Biblical journey of learning way back in December 2022 with previous co-host Michelle Mosher (episodes 101-136), in a Patreon exclusive segment called "Ash and Michelle Do the Bible". Michelle had spent many of her teen years in a Pentecostal cult and Ash had never picked up a Bible. But when Michelle got moving and grooving in other areas of life, Ash knew she had to keep quenching her thirst for that Biblical knowledge. Now friend and comedian Kristal Adams continues telling Ash about the Good Word every month on "Ash Learns the Bible", only on Patreon!

✨For ad free access to 250 additional TSFU episodes, including all of our Bible content and all other bonus content, as well as a shite ton of other cool stuff, check out our Patreon here✨


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🎉Support our work and get all kinds of nifty perks: https://www.patreon.com/TSFU
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🎧or Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2zo86q0aYvNSg8prn1k73N?si=590fae149eb24218
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👾Join our Discord community: https://discord.gg/c2HwBUDsUx
-Audio editing and research by Ryan Pregent.
-Research and Storytelling by Michelle Mosher.
-Sources:

• https://www.britannica.com/topic/Judaism/Biblical-Judaism-20th-4th-century-bce
• https://www2.kenyon.edu/Depts/Religion/Projects/Reln91/Power/lilith.htm
• https://sites.nd.edu/manuscript-studies/2015/04/09/the-slaying-of-abel-in-apocryphal-tradition/
• King James Bible
• English Standard
• Catholic Bible
• Hebrew Bible
• Book of Enoch
• Life of Adam Eve
• The Reference Bible, Das Bibelwerk : Inter Pauca problesmata de enigmatibus ex tomis canonicis, nunc prompta sunt Praefatio et libri de Pentateucho Moysi

✨Check out our Patreon for the sweetest swag around, 450+ ad free episodes (including 200 that aren't on the regular feed), monthly new bonus episodes (like Ash Learns the Bible and TSFU Presents) and access to all of our old bonus episodes, and SO much more! We really do pride ourselves on having one of the absolute best Patreons in the game!✨

Welcome back to our second episode of Ash Goes Down the Rabbit Hole, we hope you found our first episode on the world of incels, the manosphere and looksmaxxing entertaining and informative.

This week Ash journeys down the rabbit hole of the hit Netflix show, Baby Reindeer. Donny Dunn (played by Richard Gadd) deals with a woman stalker, while struggling with his sexuality and dealing with repressed grooming and SA trauma. These things did happen to Gadd in real life, but the show is billed as "A TRUE STORY", leading audience members to believe that they could trust most of what they saw on screen. Gadd emphasized that he did all he could to hide the identity of "the real" Martha, Fiona Harvey, as she was a mentally ill victim who'd been dismissed by a careless system. Yet internet sleuths were easily able to identify the real Martha, and the point of the story, the lasting effects of trauma, has been overshadowed by the insane drama.


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-Audio editing by Dallas Hernandez.
-Sources:

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP4g6l9_KUs
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJrZnL17enA
• https://www.the-sun.com/news/11217811/baby-reindeer-stalker-fiona-harvey-threatens-netflix/
• https://www.forbes.com/sites/monicamercuri/2024/05/09/richard-gadd-and-netflix-tried-to-hide-marthas-identity-on-baby-reindeer-it-didnt-work/?sh=499ce89f157d
• https://www.dexerto.com/tv-movies/baby-reindeer-is-richard-gadd-viral-breakdown-video-real-2653128/
• https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/baby-reindeer-fiona-harvey-keir-starmer-emails-report-1235904098/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/BabyReindeerTVSeries/comments/1cvkvdc/richard_gadd_obtained_a_first_instance_harassment/

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We are SO FREAKING EXCITED to kick off TSFU's newest segment where you get to hang with Ash "one on one" and follow her down whatever rabbit hole she's recently fallen down!

We're starting this party off with a lesson in what the manosphere is, and a popular trend amongst young men on TikTok and in incel forums in the manosphere- looksmaxxing. Alphas, Chads, Mogging to up you SMV, jelqing... wtf does this all mean? Ash tells you alll about it today in our premier of ASH GOES DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE!


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👾Join our Discord community: https://discord.gg/c2HwBUDsUx
-Audio editing by Dallas Hernandez.
-Sources:

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsqV00PcszQ 
• https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/does-mog-mean-part-overall-looksmaxxing-trend-young-men-tiktok-224620775.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHa1-4Ruk8Ml7rokb5umKzsTkQNnH2PU0tGy79IVEaNaKaKfHrkG15FadJlAy3SNOnaxSiONpQsjV17rJTi8GSZJ8O-JqV0pA4cOkRWARK7ssFH3RYvhdGFhNFf_yZ8x42EBihR76U1NMoHqZAl_Ar81eS7SZSa7eWYcgT2D0IXq#:~:text=An%20expanding%20piece%20of%20vocabulary,who%20had%20total%20control%20over
• https://www.newamerica.org/political-reform/reports/misogynist-incels-and-male-supremacism/red-pill-to-black-pill/
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manosphere
• https://theconversation.com/the-draw-of-the-manosphere-understanding-andrew-tates-appeal-to-lost-men-199179
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUEIczekP2c

Picture this: a 1950's pinup model in a bikini with jet black hair and short bangs... chances are that even if you don't know who she is, you're picturing the iconic Bettie Page.

Today we're diving into the fascinating and controversial life of the iconic pin-up queen, and one of Ash's idols, Bettie Page. Ash takes us through her troubled childhood and her rise to fame, becoming the first famous bondage model, pushing boundaries in the world of BDSM photography. Despite facing exploitation and financial struggles, Betty remained unapologetically herself and embraced her sexuality. Though Bettie didn't continue through life without her struggles, as she later battled with mental health issues that led to run-ins with the law and time spent in psychiatric facilities. The gals also discuss her mysterious disappearance from the public eye and why Bettie remains a beloved icon to this day.


✨If you wanna get your TSFU episodes ad free and on Tuesdays instead of Fridays, check out our Patreon! You get access to over 200 episodes that aren't on the regular feed, and you'd like them all ad free, join our Patreon for as little as $5 a month! There is actually now a new FREE version that you can try with no commitment!

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👾Join our Discord community: https://discord.gg/c2HwBUDsUx

-Audio editing by Dallas Hernandez.
-Research by Kristen Jones.
Sources: 

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bettie_Page https://www.bettiepage.com/about/ 
• https://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-page12-2008dec12-story.html 
• https://allthatsinteresting.com/bettie-page 
• https://groovyhistory.com/bettie-page-story-fetish-fashion-biography/3
• https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1776086/

We now have FIFTEEN episodes filled with Biblical fun on our Patreon, so we've decided to start sharing the magic. Every month we'll be releasing a past Bible episode here on the regular feed! We've compiled the first 3 episodes of "Ash and Michelle Do the Bible" (4 episodes total), for your listening pleasure... join us here on the free feed next month for episode 4, or listen to episode 4 right NOW on Patreon. "Ash Learns the Bible" episodes 1-11 are also available now, only on Patreon!

Ash started her Biblical journey of learning way back in December 2022 with previous co-host Michelle Mosher (episodes 101-136), in a Patreon exclusive segment called "Ash and Michelle Do the Bible". Michelle had spent many of her teen years in a Pentecostal cult and Ash had never picked up a Bible. But when Michelle got moving and grooving in other areas of life, Ash knew she had to keep quenching her thirst for that Biblical knowledge. Now friend and comedian Kristal Adams continues telling Ash about the Good Word every month on "Ash Learns the Bible", only on Patreon!

✨For ad free access to 250 additional TSFU episodes, including all of our Bible content and all other bonus content, as well as a shite ton of other cool stuff, check out our Patreon here✨


🕸️Visit That's So Fcked Up's Website: https://tsfuthepodcast.com/
🎉Support our work and get all kinds of nifty perks: https://www.patreon.com/TSFU
☕️Buy us a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/tsfuthepodcast
📲Subscribe to our podcast on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thats-so-fcked-up/id1508752329
🎧or Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2zo86q0aYvNSg8prn1k73N?si=590fae149eb24218
📸Follow TSFU on IG: https://www.instagram.com/tsfuthepodcast/
🩷Follow Ash on IG: https://www.instagram.com/ashleyloverichards/
👾Join our Discord community: https://discord.gg/c2HwBUDsUx
-Audio editing and research by Ryan Pregent.
-Research and Storytelling by Michelle Mosher.
-Sources:

• https://www.britannica.com/topic/Judaism/Biblical-Judaism-20th-4th-century-bce
• https://www2.kenyon.edu/Depts/Religion/Projects/Reln91/Power/lilith.htm
• https://sites.nd.edu/manuscript-studies/2015/04/09/the-slaying-of-abel-in-apocryphal-tradition/
• King James Bible
• English Standard
• Catholic Bible
• Hebrew Bible
• Book of Enoch
• Life of Adam Eve
• The Reference Bible, Das Bibelwerk : Inter Pauca problesmata de enigmatibus ex tomis canonicis, nunc prompta sunt Praefatio et libri de Pentateucho Moysi

Welcome to the second episode of our new segment, "TSFU INTERVIEWS..."!

In this episode, Fallon sits down with author Cait West to chat about her life and her new memoir, "Rift: A Memoir of Breaking Away from Christian Patriarchy". Cait spills all the details about growing up in the strict Christian Patriarchy movement, which adopts the beliefs of the Quiverfull Movement (check out our episode "The New F Word- Ep. 5: "Under Authority" and The Quiverfull Movement") and emphasizes men's role of authority.  She was groomed to be a stay-at-home daughter with no college or career in sight. Every detail of her life was controlled until she found the courage to escape.

Rift is Cait's amazing story of breaking free from this oppressive upbringing and forging her own path. She dives into the lingering effects of patriarchal religious trauma and her own role in those systems. Her story sheds light on the impacts of "purity culture" and the abuse in some extremist Christian communities.

Check out "Rift: A Memoir of Breaking Away from Christian Patriarchy" on Amazon!


✨If you wanna get your TSFU episodes ad free and on Tuesdays instead of Fridays, check out our Patreon! You get access to over 200 episodes that aren't on the regular feed, and you'd like them all ad free, join our Patreon for as little as $5 a month! There is actually now a new FREE version that you can try with no commitment!

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We're officially back Cultlings!

Today we're talking about a fairly new cult on the horizon, The University of Cosmic Intelligence, and its mysterious and problematic leader Rashad Jamal.  Fallon tells us how this group got on the public radar, their criminal actions, and what we know about the cult and its missing members. The gals also talk about cults growing online as a new danger. 


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Sources:

• https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/11/alabama-women-lured-driver-death-university-of-cosmic-intelligence
• https://www.the-sun.com/news/10140739/who-rashad-jamal-university-cosmic-intelligence/
• https://culteducation.com/group/1380-the-university-of-cosmic-intelligence-rashad-jamal-white/37512-an-online-prophet-claims-to-be-a-god-his-followers-keep-getting-arrested.html
• https://www.grunge.com/1494410/what-we-know-university-of-cosmic-intelligence-online-cult/
• https://www.thedailybeast.com/is-rashad-jamals-secretive-university-of-cosmic-intelligence-sect-behind-more-than-one-killing-in-alabama
• https://twitter.com/IamRashadJamal/status/1722003492640887265 
• https://twitter.com/IamRashadJamal 
• https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12598517/Female-cult-member-college-woods-guilty-murder.html 
• https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/01/20/cults-online-social-media-missing-people/72281211007/
• https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local/family-police-searching-for-mom-and-daughter-missing-from-berkeley/63-9c129947-65e8-4905-ae5a-856e8bf5f2d9
• https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-courts/they-left-family-joined-a-cult-vanished-from-florissant-there-s-still-no-trace-of/article_7e4e5cc4-cb83-11ee-9fab-376427324d2f.html
• https://atlantablackstar.com/2024/01/14/police-in-missouri-are-searching-for-four-adults-and-two-children/
• https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-self-proclaimed-prophet-built-a-spiritual-cult-online-now-six-followers-are-missing/ar-AA1mHJ2O
• https://www.theuci.online/public-library
• Song: Kundalini Energy by Rashad Jamal