On today's episode, Chris sits down with Tommy Caldwell, one of the world’s top rock climbers known for his historic ascent of the Dawn Wall on El Capitan.

Tommy's career includes numerous achievements in rock climbing, including his pioneering efforts on big wall climbs. He also shares his personal journey, including surviving a kidnapping in Kyrgyzstan and losing a finger in an accident. Tommy discusses how these experiences shaped his career and his approach to climbing, as well as his views on resilience and perseverance.

To learn more about Tommy, check out his book The Push: A Climber's Journey of Endurance, Risk, and Going Beyond Limits

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