You and Me Both with Hillary Clinton

The American Dream (with Tan France, Lorella Praeli, and Raj Chetty)


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America is often described as a land of opportunity where anyone can succeed -- but is that actually the case? In this episode, Hillary is joined by “Queer Eye” star, author, and newly minted U.S. citizen Tan France; community advocate Lorella Praeli; and economist Raj Chetty to talk about what the American Dream means to them personally and whether it’s still attainable. Of course, Tan also provides expert feedback on Hillary’s presidential campaign wardrobe.


Tan France is a fashion designer and television personality who grew up in the United Kingdom, the son of South Asian immigrants. He is best known for his role as one of the Fab Five on Netflix’s “Queer Eye.” His memoir, Naturally Tan, was published in 2019.


Lorella Praeli was born in Peru and grew up undocumented in Connecticut. She’s now the co-president of Community Change, an advocacy group that works on behalf of low-income Americans.


Raj Chetty is a MacArthur “Genius” grant-winning economist who has received wide acclaim for his research on equality and opportunity in America. He is the director of Harvard’s Opportunity Insights lab.


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