The Art Of Hospitality

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The Art Of Hospitality episodes

October 14What VRMA 2026 Revealed About the Future of Vacation Rentals (With Tyann Marcink & Tom Goodwin)
In this episode, Adam catches up with Tyan Marsink and Tom at VRMA 2026 to talk all things about what’s changing in vacation rentals, the importance of industry connections, balancing AI with human hospitality, regulations, building a lasting business, direct bookings, industry consolidation, and a lot MORE!
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⭐️ Links & Show Notes
Adam Norko
Conrad O'Connell
Tyann Marcink
Branson Family Retreats
Missouri Haus Vacation Rentals
Tom Goodwin
Mountain Laurel Chalets
57 min
October 07What Most Vacation Rental Managers Get Wrong About Revenue Management (With Neal Cyr)
In this episode, we interview Neil of Quibble to talk about all things vacation rental pricing, revenue management, forecasting demand, base rates vs. dynamic pricing, guest booking behavior, pricing direct vs. OTAs, connecting marketing with revenue management, AI, and a lot MORE!
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⭐️ Links & Show Notes
Adam Norko
Conrad O'Connell
Neal Cyr
Quibble
49 min
September 30How Much of Your Vacation Rental Business Should You Actually Hand Over to AI? (With Tanya Rooney)
In this episode, we interview Tanya Rooney to talk about all things AI in vacation rentals, outsourcing and specialization, automation vs. AI, using technology to save time and make more money, maintaining the human side of hospitality, knowing what to automate and what to hold onto, AI creep, and a lot MORE!
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⭐️ Links & Show Notes
Adam Norko
Conrad O'Connell
Tanya Rooney Website
Tanya Rooney LinkedIn
Tanya Rooney - "Tribe Builders" Podcast
41 min
September 23Vacation Rentals, Tourism Boards & the Opportunity Nobody Is Talking About (With Jenn Barbee)
In this episode, we interview Jenn to talk about all things destination marketing, the relationship between DMOs and vacation rental managers, tourism vs. hospitality, industry standards, changing traveler perceptions, creating better guest experiences, driving more demand to local markets, and a lot MORE!
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⭐️ Links & Show Notes
Adam Norko
Conrad O'Connell
Jenn Barbee
Destination Innovate
Hosts and Home Teams
50 min
September 16Your Local Knowledge Is Your Biggest Marketing Advantage. Are You Actually Using It?
In this episode, Conrad and Adam talk about all things local vacation rental marketing: building an authentic brand, creating content that actually connects with guests and homeowners, using local knowledge as a competitive advantage, staying consistent, building an audience, and a lot MORE!
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⭐️ Links & Show Notes
Adam Norko
Conrad O'Connell
38 min
September 09The Future of PMS, AI & Vacation Rental Technology (With Rick van der Plas)
In this episode, we interview Rick, CTO of Hostaway, to talk all things vacation rental technology, the evolution of property management systems, AI co-hosts, automation, point solutions vs. all-in-one platforms, building smarter operations, the future of AI in the industry, and a lot MORE!
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⭐️ Links & Show Notes
Adam Norko
Conrad O'Connell
Rick van der Plas
Hostaway
47 min
September 02Can AI Actually Deliver Better Hospitality? The Future of Vacation Rental Operations (With Cole Rubin)
In this episode, we interview Cole Rubin, co-founder and CEO of Conduit, to talk all things AI agents, guest communication, automation, hospitality tech, and what the future of vacation rental operations could look like.
We dive into balancing AI with the human side of hospitality, what it really takes to automate guest messaging, why context matters, the future of the vacation rental tech stack, AI pricing and security, and a lot MORE!

Enjoy!
⭐️ Links & Show Notes
Adam Norko
Conrad O'Connell
Cole Rubin
Conduit AI
50 min
August 26How Do You Scale Hospitality Without Losing What Makes It Special? (With Rachel Alday)
In this episode, we interview Rachel Alday of Abode Luxury Rentals to talk all things luxury vacation rentals, scaling with standards, hospitality and leadership, private equity and industry consolidation, building authentic connections with guests and homeowners, her upcoming book Please Do Disturb, and a lot MORE!
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⭐️ Links & Show Notes
Adam Norko
Conrad O'Connell
Rachel Alday
Abode Luxury Rentals
Rachel's Book: Please Do Disturb | Penguin Random House
Rachel's Book: Please Do Disturb | Amazon
48 min
August 19Are Experiences Changing the Way Guests Book Travel? (With Seth Borko)
In this episode, we interview Seth Borko of Skift Research to talk all things travel trends, the experience economy, vacation rentals, guest behavior, local experiences, AI discoverability, flipping the traditional booking funnel, and a lot MORE!
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⭐️ Links & Show Notes
Adam Norko
Conrad O'Connell
Seth Borko
Skift Research
Living The Dream Divers
52 min
August 12From 6 Units to 430: The Unexpected Journey of Building Sojourn (With Dunniela Kaufman)
In this episode, we interview Dunniela Kaufman of Sojourn to talk all things building a hospitality brand, growing from 6 to 430 vacation rental units, short-term vs. mid-term rentals, changing homeowner and guest expectations, creating consistent brand standards, balancing profitability with a better guest experience, using AI to support human hospitality, and a lot MORE!
Enjoy!
⭐️ Links & Show Notes
Adam Norko
Conrad O'Connell
Dunniela Kaufman
Sojourn DC
49 min