Today, Katherine and Shelley have a real and honest catch-up — and things get personal. Shelley opens up about her feelings around wanting a fourth child, the tug-of-war between heart and logic, and what life has really been like with three kids under three.

They dive into:
- The pros and cons of expanding their family
- The emotional thought process behind the “maybe baby” conversation
- The realities (and chaos) of having three little ones so close together
- Why Shelley and her husband decided on a vasectomy — and how that decision feels now

It’s a raw, relatable chat for any parent who’s ever wondered if their family is complete… or if there might be room for one more.

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