In this episode Jonathan sits down for another round with Dr. Jerome Lubbe. Dr. Jerome is the founder of Thrive Neuro Health and Thrive NeuroTheology and Whole Identity- A Brain Based Enneagram.

For Dr. Jerome neuroscience and the Enneagram are two pieces of the same puzzle and they serve a powerful function when paired together. He completely reshapes the traditional understanding of how the Enneagram works with your whole being, pushing far past the boundaries of your “type” or the constant question “what is my number?”

In this fascinating conversation Jonathan and Dr. Jerome discuss The Enneagram, whole health, how our image of God can shape our anthropology and our psychology, AND propose a hilarious idea for a satirical Enneagram podcast with pets!

Dr. Jerome’s new book, The Brain Based Enneagram- You Are Not A Number, is out today!

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