Drawing from his work on “the troubles” in his own country of Northern Ireland, as well as his extensive study of the conflicts in South Africa and Israel/Palestine, Jonny Clark is uniquely qualified to speak to the violence of the age and the vocation of peacemaking. This episode is a special crossover episode with Jonny’s own podcast, Guardians of the Flame—which we highly recommend checking out!

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