How Not to Raise a Serial Killer

"The Count" & Interview with Victims Family


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This week, Michelle Ward covers a case that took the life of a young girl named Lisa Ann Mather. The killer known as “The Count” looked for young victims simply enjoying their nights out on the town in Los Angeles, CA. Michelle got the opportunity to speak with both Lisa Mather's aunt and sister, Nancy and Roz, to hear their side of the tragic story. Take a listen and hear more about the Lisa Mather case from first hand experiences with her actual family members. 


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