The Derivative

On this episode of The Derivative, Jeff Malec continues Chicago Month with a deep dive into the past, present, and future of derivatives and volatility at Cboe with two of its stars. 

First up, Cboe Global Head of Derivatives Rob Hocking traces Chicago’s rise as the world’s derivatives hub, from the Board of Trade’s agricultural hedging roots to SPX and VIX becoming the center of global risk transfer. Rob walks through life in the OEX and SPX pits, the culture of open outcry, the evolution from Hull and DRW to “the dark side” at the exchange, and how today’s liquidity, zero‑DTE flows, and concentrated market‑making still hold up under stress. He and Jeff dig into whether the derivative can ever outgrow the underlying, why S&P 500 remains the benchmark despite megacap concentration and global basis risk, and how Cboe balances the floor’s high‑touch block business with a mostly electronic market.

Then Mandy Xu, Head of Derivatives Market Intelligence at Cboe, joins to break down the current volatility regime. She explains what VIX really measures (and why “fear gauge” is often wrong), how Cboe decomposes VIX into bullish vs bearish positioning, and why today’s record call‑chasing and low skew feel uncomfortably close to meme‑stock and late‑’90s territory. Mandy covers the rise of zero‑DTE, option‑income and buffered ETFs, the breakdown of stock–bond correlation, the AI‑driven dispersion trade, and whether vol selling is truly “artificially” suppressing risk. The trio also find time for some Chicago vs New York banter—pizza, skylines, seasons, and sports—and a look at what’s next from Cboe, from binaries on XSP to trading KPI‑style “valuation chain” products tied to names like Tesla and Cboe itself.

00:00-01:43=Intro

01:44–05:36 = From Corn Contracts to Options Hub

05:37–20:42 = Pit Sheets to $5 Trillion a Day: Inside the S&P Options Machine

20:43–30:29 = Game Within the Game

30:30–35:36 = Big Blocks, Complex Trades, and the Future Beyond VIX38:07-42:15 =  Pork Chops at Soldier Field

42:16–51:09 = Retail Flows and the New Vol Regime

51:10–1:02:57 = Is VIX Still the Fear Gauge? What’s Really Driving Risk

1:02:58-1:07:18 =  AI Winners, Dispersion, and the 60/40 Shift1:07:19-1:13:16 =  Building Better Hedges

1:13:16-1:17:34 =  Chicago vs. New York: Pizza, Seasons, Sports, & Final Whistle

From the Episode:How Futures saved Stocks

RCM VIX Whitepaper

Blog Post - VIXmaggaeddon

Follow along with Rob Hocking, Mandy Xu, and the Cboe on LinkedIn and be sure to visit cboe.com for more information!

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Jeff Malec kicks off “Chicago Month” on The Derivative with Chicago real estate powerhouse Tommy Choi of Weinberg Choi. Tommy lays out what really makes Chicago compelling as a place to live and invest—world-class food, underrated beaches, iconic bungalows, and relative affordability, while tackling the tough stuff around crime headlines, taxes, and politics. He breaks down post-pandemic migration, why inventory is so tight, how boomers with 2–3% mortgages and “Bank of Mom and Dad” shape the market, and why millennials are choosing flexibility and crypto over owning. Jeff and Tommy hit on stubbornly high rates, surging rents, condo special assessments, aging buildings, the limits of Loop office-to-resi conversions, and how AI and blockchain might (and might not) change the game. They wrap with a very Chicago detour into best burgers, dive bars, Wrigley in summer, and a few local hacks for seeing the city like a native. If you care about real estate as an asset class, Chicago as a case study in big-city risk and reward, or just want some elite burger intel, this one’s for you.

Chapters:

00:00-01:00=Intro

01:01–03:47 = Selling Chicago: Food, Beaches, Weather, Taxes, and Crime Headlines

03:48–15:57 = Inventory Squeeze: Boomers, Millennials, Rates, and the Battle to Buy or Rent

15:58–30:54 = Life as a Top Realtor: Relationships, Weekends, and the Business Behind the Billion

30:55–43:32 = AI, Search, and the Future Home Hunt: How Tech Is Rewiring Real Estate

43:33–59:19 = Commissions, Class Actions, and Blockchain: Cleaning Up the Real Estate Game

59:20–1:07:10 =  The NAR Shake-Up

1:07:11–1:22:19 =  Chicago Like a Local: Best Burgers, True Dive Bars, Wrigley, Cherry Blossoms, and City Hacks

Follow along with Tommy Choi on LinkedIn and X and be sure to check out his website at weinbergchoi.com!

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Copper steps out of the shadow of gold and silver in this wide‑ranging conversation with StoneX’s Natalie Scott Gray and SummerHaven’s Kurt Nelson. Jeff digs into why “Dr. Copper” sits at the heart of electrification, AI data centers, EVs, and defense, and how underinvestment in mines, fragile supply chains from Chile to the DRC, and China’s smelting dominance are setting the stage for structural shortages. Natalie breaks down the real fundamentals: tariffs, sulfuric acid bottlenecks, strategic stockpiling, and the difference between visible and hidden inventories, while Kurt connects it all to macro, inflation, and why investors may be underestimating copper versus the miners. Along the way, they hit on rare earths, environmental trade‑offs, and what rising retail interest in copper bars might signal about the next phase of the metals trade. SEND IT!

Chapters:

00:00-01:16=Intro

01:17–04:58 = Natalie & Kurt: From Chemistry Labs to Copper Markets

04:59–14:09 = What Makes “Dr. Copper” Special? Conductivity, AI, EVs & the Grid

14:10–26:41 = Inside the Copper Supply Machine: Mines, Smelters & China’s Grip

26:42–39:34 = Tariffs, Trade Wars & Regional Shortages: How Policy Moves Copper

39:35–56:19 = Structural Deficits, Sulfur Shocks & the Coming Copper Crunch

56:20–1:03:09 = Investing in Copper: Futures vs. Miners, Inflation & Retail FOMO

1:03:10–1:08:43 = Copper Bars, Lab-Grown Diamonds & Restaurant Recs

Blog Post: The Hardest Trade Is Holding the Thing That Doesn’t Hug You Back

Podcast episode: Unlocking the Commodity Risk Premium with Kurt Nelson of SummerHaven

Follow along on LinkedIn with Kurt Nelson & Natalie Scott-Gray and be sure to check out summerhavenindex.com and stonex.com for more information!

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In this episode, Jeff Malec sits down with Dr. Patrick Welton to trace his remarkable path from Wisconsin kid to Stanford oncologist to veteran futures trader and founder of Welton Investment Partners. Patrick shares how trading pork bellies and interest rate futures in the late 1970s to pay tuition evolved into a decades-long career shaped by mentors at Commodities Corp, relationships with legends like Paul Tudor Jones and John Henry, and a unique “outside inside trader” role that let him keep practicing medicine at Stanford while managing money. He explains how his medical background and scientific training influence his approach to risk, uncertainty, and decision-making, and breaks down Welton’s strategy mix across trend following, macro, short-term flow trading, and equity selloff protection. Along the way, Patrick and Jeff dig into the myths around trend following “dying,” why diversification and staying power matter more than narratives, how capital flows really drive short-term moves, and what it takes to survive for 30+ years in a business where most firms disappear. SEND IT!

Chapters:

00:00-02:03=Intro

02:04-09:40=Doctor to Trader: Patrick Welton’s Origin Story, From Wauwatosa to Futures and the ER

09:41-30:03= From 1987 Crash to Commodities Corp: How Patrick and Annette Turned a Side Hustle into a Trading Career

30:04-43:19= Doctors, Scientists, and Traders: Embracing Uncertainty, Reflexivity, and the Real Drivers of Trend Following

43:20-56:16= AI, Innovation, and the “CTA Winter”: Cycles, Flows, and the Future of Trend Following

56:17-01:14:19= Building Welton’s Playbook: Diversifying Alpha, Short-Term Flows, and the Art of Surviving as an Asset Manager

01:14:20-01:29:48= Alt Data, Capital Flows, and What Really Matters: Patrick Welton on Research, Edges, and the Future of Trading

01:29:49-01:37:47= End-of-Month Myths, Market Microstructure, and the Limits of Short-Term Edges

From the Episode: 

Leverage Is Bad. Except When It Isn’t. Morningstar Just Made the Distinction Official

Book: Richer, Wiser, Happier: How the World’s Greatest Investors Win in Markets and Life

Book: Market Wizards, Updated: Interviews with Top Traders

Jack Schwager on The Derivative

Follow along with Dr. Welton and Welton Investment Partners on LinkedIn and be sure to check out Welton's website at welton.com for more information!

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In this episode, former Milwaukee Brewers left-hander Scott Karl traces his path from Carlsbad standout to big league starter to financial advisor. He swaps stories with Jeff about Bandon Dunes and his move from California to Lake Norman, then dives into his career, getting a last-minute shot after the ’94 strike, surviving as a finesse pitcher in a power era, facing legends like Randy Johnson, Greg Maddux, and Sammy Sosa, and taking the mound during the 1998 home run chase. Scott shares how he lost roughly 70% of his portfolio in the dot-com bust while still playing, what it taught him about risk and advisors, and how it pushed him into wealth management. He explains why many athletes blow through life-changing money, how he builds portfolios with buffered ETFs, structured notes, and private credit, and how he manages expectations around upside, downside, and liquidity. The conversation widens to NIL, parents effectively betting travel-ball costs on scholarships, and the risk of turning college sports into a money race. Scott also talks about raising two Division I volleyball players, the mental side of high performance, and how those lessons carry into investing, before closing with his favorite baseball cities and parks, from Wrigley day games to the old Jake in Cleveland and nostalgic nights at Dodger Stadium. SEND IT!

Chapters:

00:00-02:21=Intro

02:22-09:59= Private Jets, Bandon Dunes, and the Road from Carlsbad to the Big Leagues

10:00-24:09= Facing Maddux and the Big Unit: Velocity, Wiffle Balls, and the Rise of the 100-MPH Era

24:10-34:12= From Million-Dollar Contracts to Going Broke: Why Pro Athletes Struggle with Money

34:13-44:17= Making a Short Career Last a Lifetime: Contracts, Risk Math, and Smoother Portfolios

44:18-56:31= Buffers, Structured Notes, and Private Credit: Building Smoother Rides Through Rough Markets

56:32-01:05:47= First Responders vs. Second Responders: Buffers, Managed Futures, and Protecting the Downside

01:05:48-01:14:25= NIL, Transfers, and Pandora’s Box: How College Sports Turned into a Money Game

01:14:26-01:22:28= From Youth Sports to Life After the Game: Parenting, Perspective, and Baseball’s Best Cities

01:22:28-01:27:57= Gibsons, Wrigley Day Games, and Why Petco Might Be Baseball’s Best Park

From the Episode: 

PIVOT PODCAST (Caleb Williams podcast episode)

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4qO6oXmftTn8Jl4Ru3R4Mg?si=kzx-UJ_YTe25pDr8mNHfAQ&nd=1&dlsi=4cc9da8589d542a2

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Jeff Malec sits down with Christopher Reeve, Chief Investment Officer of Aspect Capital, one of the original managed futures shops with roots tracing back to the "L" in AHL. Chris shares his path from chemistry and early-2000s AI at Oxford to 22 years at Aspect, where he now runs the investment side of the business. Jeff puts every trend following critique on the table, too big, too simple, too crowded, just beta, and Chris pushes back on all of it. They dig into why the edge is real but small, why multi-model diversification is the whole game, and why stacking lookalike models is fake diversification dressed up in a lab coat. The conversation covers cocoa and silver finally paying off, the replicator debate, why bond futures are really just seven yield curves in a trench coat, the case against explicit stops, and prediction markets.

Plus King Charles, horses, chickens, and the Superman jokes that write themselves. - SEND IT!

Chapters:

00:00-01:21=Intro

01:22-11:00= From Oxford AI and Chemistry to Building a Managed Futures Powerhouse

11:01-18:51= Is Trend Following Too Big and Too Simple? Edges, Critics, and the Evolution of Models

18:52-27:49= Designing Durable Trend: Multi‑Model Diversification, Modulators, and the Real Meaning of Crisis Alpha

27:50-35:39= Correlated Trendlessness, Crisis Alpha Expectations, and Why Aspect Refused to “Optimize” for the Last Decade

35:40-44:05= From Silver to Cocoa: Why Obscure and Alternative Markets Supercharge Trend Diversification

44:06-52:04= Replicators, Bond Pain, and the Illusion of Fixed-Income Diversification

52:05-01:00:25= How Aspect Sizes Positions, Builds Macro Models, and Lives with Real-World Risk

01:00:26-01:06:42= Systematic Macro, Horses, and “Hair‑Dryer Alpha” in Prediction Markets

From the Episode: 

Hi Ho Silver Post

Trend Following’s Bond Problem

The History of Managed Futures (whitepaper)

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Recorded live in Puerto Rico, this special episode of The Derivative features host Jeff Malec with guests Brent Johnson, Jason Buck, and Mark Tower exploring how alternative investments are behaving in a world shifting from globalization to de‑globalization. The panel covers why some managed futures and volatility strategies haven’t delivered as expected in recent crises, the growing stress in private credit and liquidity mismatches, and the evolving roles of gold and Bitcoin as hedges against instability and fiat risk. They also dig into de‑dollarization versus continued dollar dominance, the power and data‑center boom tied to AI, and the coming capital wave into defense‑related technology and critical minerals. Finally, they debate whether AI is a truly transformational, deflationary force or just another tech cycle, how it may reshape portfolios, and how Puerto Rico’s unique tax regime influences where and how to run active trading strategies. SEND IT!

Asset Management One Disclaimer: Asset Management One USA Inc. is a New York-based investment advisor and a part of Asset Management One Co., Ltd. group, a global asset management company headquartered in Japan. Asset Management One USA Inc. is jointly owned by Mizuho Americas LLC (MALLC) and Dai-Ichi Holdings. Asset Management Group consists of AMO USA as well as Asset Management One Co., Ltd and its subsidiaries including Asset Management One Alternative Investments, Asset Management One International Ltd., and Asset Management One Hong Kong Limited. The views expressed in this recording are the personal views of the participants as of the date indicated and do not necessarily reflect the views of Asset Management One USA Inc. itself. This recording has been prepared solely for informational purposes only and should not be considered investment advice or a recommendation of any specific security, strategy, or investment product. Nothing in this interview is intended to be, and you should not consider anything in this interview to be, investment, accounting, tax or legal advice.

Chapters:

00:00-01:53= Intro

01:54-10:30= When “Uncorrelated” Alts Don’t Work as Expected10:31-19:06= Private Credit’s Gray Rhino, De-Dollarization Myths, and Gold vs. Bitcoin as Fiat Hedges19:07-28:05= AI, Data Centers, and the New Defense & Minerals Supercycle28:06-36:52= Prediction Markets, Speculation, and the Gamification of Risk36:63-47:08= AI Shockwaves, Puerto Rico Tax Edges, and Letting Algorithms Run the Portfolio47:09-50:35= Wrestling w/ Risk: WWE Analogies and Final Takeaways on a Fracturing World
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Join Jeff Malec for another solo Six Pack episode of The Derivative, where he riffs on everything from the post-COVID conference circuit to bond markets, AI, and yes… public restrooms. Jeff contrasts the buttoned-up energy of iConnections with the beach-side vibes of Future Proof and asks whether meeting managers face-to-face actually improves allocation decisions or just introduces new biases. He digs into Florida's great hedge fund migration and whether the tax savings actually pencil out, breaks down why the last five years have been historically brutal for bonds and what that's meant for managed futures globally, and tackles AI's deflationary potential, the "ghost GDP" thesis, and the governance question of letting a handful of private companies set moral guardrails for systems increasingly doing human jobs. On the lighter side, Jeff shares his experience racing Switzerland's legendary Inferno downhill and closes with a definitive ranking of public hand-drying solutions. If you're an allocator, markets nerd, or just someone with strong opinions about restroom hand dryers, this one's for you. 

Consider this episode a six pack best enjoyed in one long, thoughtful sip SEND IT!

Chapters:

00:00-00:41=Intro

00:42-06:26= #1 Conference Circuit, iConnections vs. Future Proof, and the Allocator’s Dilemma

06:27-10:26= #2 The Florida Hedge Fund Invasion and West Palm’s Second Manhattan

10:27-15:19= #3 What the #$*@? Is Going On With Bonds? Managed Futures vs. a Broken Bond Market

15:20-21:56= # 4 AI Deflation, Ghost GDP, and Who Sets the Moral Code for Machines?

21:57-24:02= # 5 Inferno Downhills, & Ego Checks

24:03-28:41= #6 The Great Hand Dryer Debate (Ranking)

Roy Niederhoffer podcast episode: Making Market Music with Roy Niederhoffer

Citrini Blog post: When Skynet Writes a Substack: The AI Doom Piece That Moved Markets

Dwarkish podcast: The most important question nobody's asking about AIAs We May Work (Taylor Pearson Whitepaper): https://taylorpearson.substack.com/p/as-we-may-work

Inferno Murren: The World's craziest downhill ski race
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In this episode, Jeff Malec sits down with Vuk Vukovic and Scott Alford of Oraclum Capital (ORCA) to explore how an academic project on elections turned into a $70M hedge fund powered by crowd predictions. Vuk explains how he and his co-founders, coming from economics, physics, and computer science backgrounds, built a survey-based system that originally nailed events like Brexit and the 2016 and 2020 U.S. elections, then adapted the same framework to financial markets. Scott breaks down how ORCA combines wisdom of crowds, network analysis, and machine learning to identify the best retail predictors each week and turn their aggregated views into directional options trades on the S&P and Nasdaq. They discuss incentives for participants, how they filter noise, why independence and diverse networks matter more than “experts,” the limits of traditional polling, and the rise, and risks, of retail trading and prediction markets. The conversation also touches on political polarization, elite networks, and what it really takes to build a differentiated strategy in today’s markets. SEND IT!

Chapters:

00:00-01:34=Intro

01:35-12:38= Origins of ORCA: From Broken Polls to a Crowd-Powered Market Prediction Engine

12:39-21:01= Why Traditional Polls Fail and How Academic Research (and Grants) Really Work

21:02-35:35= Inside ORCA’s Signal: Paying Predictors, Mapping Networks, and Turning Weekly Surveys into Option Trades

35:36-49:49= Timing the Crowd: Weekly Signals, Zero-Dated Options, and How ORCA Differs from Prediction Markets

49:50-1:01:03= Hot Streaks, Crypto Crowds, and Why True Wisdom of Crowds Needs Independent Thinkers

1:01:04-01:20:36= Retail Traders, Polarization, and Building Better Predictors: How ORCA Sees the Future of Markets

From the Episode: 

Youtube: Predict Market Moves by Oraclum https://www.youtube.com/@predictmarketmoves

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@vuk_vukovic_author/videos

Personal website: https://www.vukvukovic.org/

Follow along with Vuk , Scott and ORCA on LinkedIn, you can find Vuk on X @wolf_vukovic and ORCA @OraclumCapital as well - be sure to check out oraclumcapital.com for more information!

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In this episode, Jeff Malec sits down with returning “resident oil guy” Brent Belote of Cayler Capital to unpack one of the wildest stretches in energy markets since COVID and Russia/Ukraine. They dig into recent oil volatility, geopolitical tensions in the Middle East, and why the Straits of Hormuz still matter more than most people think. Brent breaks down how traders are actually navigating this market, from tracking physical flows to managing extreme option volatility, and what could come next. Jeff and Brent also explore how EV adoption, data centers, and grid constraints collide with the energy transition narrative, and what “up $50” or even “up $100” oil scenarios actually look like from a real risk perspective. SEND IT!

Chapters:

00:00-01:18=Intro

01:19-04:08= Fluky Winter: Snow, Melt, and the Tetons’ Weird Season

04:09-18:24= Israel/Iran, the Strait of Hormuz, and the New Oil Shock

18:25-29:55= Closing Hormuz? Tail-Risk Scenarios, Oil Volatility, and $150 Crude

29:56-37:49= Oil’s Binary Future: Hormuz Off-Ramps, $150 Risk, and 24/7 Prediction Markets

37:50-48:25= Beyond Peak Oil: Shale, Venezuela, EV Myths, and an All-of-the-Above Energy Future

From the Episode:

Whitepaper- A Crude Awakening:  How Oil Prices Ripple Through the Global Economy 

Crude Oil goes Negative… What^%$# on The Derivative

OpenSnow’s Joel Gratz built a Pod Shop for Powder Days: the PMs are Meteorologists and the Returns are Faceshots

Going Nuclear: How Uranium is Powering Portfolios with Trevor Hall & Justin Huhn

Follow along with Brent at LinkedIn and on X @brentbelote - be sure to check out Cayler Capital on LinkedIn and at caylercapital.com

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