What is a calling? How does it shape our work and life? What’s the hidden cost of pursuing it (and what can we do about it)? In this engaging, high-energy conversation, Michael and Megan sit down with Dr. Arianna Molloy—calling researcher, author, and professor—to unpack the power and pitfalls of purpose-driven work.

Arianna reveals the four key elements of a true calling, practical safeguards to prevent burnout, and three concrete shifts anyone in any field can make to start experiencing a greater sense of purpose and meaning at work.  She also explains why humility—not just passion—is the key to sustainable success. If you’ve ever struggled to balance meaningful work with a healthy life, this episode is a must-listen.

Memorable Quotes

1. “Burnout from a calling isn’t just, ‘I don’t know what I’m doing anymore.’ It’s, ‘I don’t know who I am anymore.’”
2. “To learn how to rest well, to learn how to have good boundaries actually protects that healthy sense of your calling.”
3. “It is so important that work is not all that you have and all that you are because, guess what? At the end of the day, [your work] is going to change and shift… If we hold that with a closed hand, it’s not going to go well.”
4. “[Calling is] really relational. It’s a relationship with yourself, the caller, and it’s a relationship with the community that you impact.”
5. “Most of the time, [calling] happens upon reflection… In the moment, it’s not so obvious. This subtle sense of peace, or just a feeling like, ‘I think this is right.’”
6. “We don’t honor that need and importance of play as much as we could.”
7. “The lynchpin is humility. Part of humility is the willingness to learn more, to know that you don’t know everything and that is not a threat—it’s actually exciting.”

Key Takeaways

• The Bright and Dark Sides of Calling. A strong sense of purpose can fuel motivation, but without boundaries, it can also lead to burnout and identity loss.
• The Four Elements of a True Calling. Calling isn’t just about passion—it requires meaning, an identified caller, skill development, and a connection to community.
• How to Reframe Your Work. Even if your current job doesn’t feel like a calling, job crafting—adjusting your tasks, relationships, or mindset—can create a deeper sense of meaning.
• The Role (and Definition) of Humility. True calling requires both confidence in your strengths and an openness to growth and makes it possible to step away from work without guilt.
• The Power of Rest. Sustainable success isn’t just about doing more—it’s about recognizing your limits and practicing the right kind of rest to restore energy and creativity.

Resources

• Healthy Calling by Arianna Molloy
• Arianna Molloy’s Website
• Connect on LinkedIn

Watch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/upMwbYdyViw

This episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound

Entrepreneurship promises freedom—but it also comes with a unique set of challenges that many don’t talk about. In this episode, The Double Win Show welcomes Bryan and Shannon Miles, co-founders of Belay and the nonprofit O’nr, to pull back the curtain on what it really takes to build a thriving business without losing yourself in the process.

From hiring their first virtual assistant in 2011 (who later became CEO!) to navigating the emotional weight of selling a business, Bryan and Shannon share their hard-won lessons on leadership, transitions, and making decisions that align with your values.

Memorable Quotes

1. “Here’s the magic phrase: ‘In order to be faithful to my existing commitments, I have to say no.’”
2. “I am responsible for myself and my leadership. And I know that if I extend myself too far, I’m not the best version of who I want to be.”
3. “If I’m saying yes to everything and I’m overcommitting and my schedule is absolutely full, there’s no space for creativity. There’s no space for dreaming. There’s no space for new ideas or realizations.”
4. “A lot of business owners are lonely, actually isolated.”
5. “As leaders, part of our job is just kind of to help people settle and know they’re safe.”
6. “Stewardship is just simply managing something for a season of time… While we’re there with our employees and leaders, we’re stewarding our relationships with them.”

Key Takeaways

1. The Loneliness of Leadership. If you’re feeling isolated as a business owner, there’s good news: You’re not the only one.
2. The Skill of Saying No. Implement this mental shift to help you stop overcommitting without the guilt.
3. Getting Buy-In For Change. What leaders get wrong when making major business changes—and what to do to help your team ride the wave.
4. Living Your Priorities Today. Why Bryan and Shannon took a vacation nine months after starting a business—and the opportunity that followed.
5. The Operator/Owner Difference. Are you owning a business or trapped in it?

Resources

• Belay Solutions
• O’nr
• NoFo Brew

Watch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/pGdaYmIJPHk

This episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound

We all know that habits shape our lives. But which habits actually matter? In this episode of The Double Win Show, Michael and Megan sit down with Dr. Andrew Abella, founding dean of the Bush School of Business and author of Superhabits, to discuss a framework for building a flourishing life. Andrew shares how ancient wisdom, backed by modern science, reveals the core virtues that drive success—and how anyone can develop them. If you’ve ever wondered where to start when it comes to personal growth, this episode is your answer.

Memorable Quotes

1. “Cultivating self discipline is not about stifling a desire. It’s about redirecting it gently into a more productive direction.”
2. “There is a specific set of habits that is far superior.”
3. “Vitrues are specific habits of excellence.”
4. “Every [virtue] all of us have inside us. They just need to be activated… by practicing them.”
5. “There’s a freedom that comes from growing in self-discipline, because instead of being a prey to whatever desire that you have, you’re in charge.”
6. “For an adult who’s looking at harmless social media, the problem is you are wasting your desire to know on stuff that is not going to help you.”

Key Takeaways

1. The Four Pillars of Success. Prudence, justice, courage, and self-discipline form the foundation of a flourishing life, shaping how we think, act, and grow.
2. The “Which Habit?” Problem. Most habit books focus on how to build habits, but the real challenge is knowing which habits will lead to lasting success.
3. The Power of Restraint. Simple acts of restraint—like pausing before reacting or delaying instant gratification—build your no muscle for the other areas of life.
4. The Role of Leisure. True rest isn’t about doing nothing—it’s about engaging in activities that refresh the mind and restore creativity.

Resources

1. Superhabits by Dr. Andrew Abela
2. Superhabits Substack
3. GrowVirtue (The SuperHabits App)
4. The Anatomy of Virtue Graphic
5. Andrew Abela’s LinkedIn

Watch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/RAJeu68fIJ4

This episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound

In this episode of The Double Win Show, Michael and Megan sit down with bestselling author Jay Papasan to talk about the secret to extraordinary success: focus. Jay unpacks why most people struggle with distraction, how to create an environment for deep work, and why small, consistent actions lead to massive results over time.

Memorable Quotes

1. “Our focus muscle depends on how long we’ve been using it and how much distraction we have to deal with every day.”
2. “If it’s important enough, it belongs on my calendar.”
3. “When you get really good at your one thing, you don’t just get many results. Your impact gets larger and larger over time.”
4. “Extraordinary starts this way: It starts small and it grows so much faster than we can imagine.”
5. “There’s two groups of people in life: doers who don’t have space to dream and dreamers who don’t have space to do.”
6. “It creates anxiety and fear because it matters. We don’t want to fail at the things that matter most to us.”
7. “Our culture rewards busy people who move fast and get things done.”
8. “It should always be situational. When do we need to be fast? When do we need to be slow?”
9. “If you’re going to do something extraordinary, it’s not going to be because you did millions of things. It’s going to be because you did that thing and the handful of things that matter around it extraordinarily well.”
10. “Everything in life that matters happens pretty slowly.”

Key Takeaways

1. The Focus Bunker: How to design a workspace that protects your attention so you can do your best work
2. The Domino Effect: The science behind tiny actions that lead to exponential growth
3. The Myth of Busyness: Why getting a lot done doesn’t mean you’re moving forward (and what does)
4. The Value of Slow: How taking your time can actually speed up your success—and why the best things take time
5. Rituals for High Performance: Small habits that make big results inevitable (and how you can implement them today.)

Resources

• The One Thing by Gary Keller & Jay Papasan
• The One Thing Podcast

Watch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/UnMEk4qAJcw

This episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound

In this episode of The Double Win Show, Michael Hyatt and Megan Hyatt Miller chat with Rich Litvin, bestselling author of The Prosperous Coach and sought-after leadership coach. Rich unpacks how leaders can embrace self-awareness, tackle work addiction, and redefine success by asking one simple but life-changing question: “What do you want?”

Memorable Quotes

1. “Most of success is actually about mining your past.”
2. “No one really remembers a comfortable life.”
3. “My favorite coaching question is the simplest one. It’s: What do you want? Especially if you’re really good at helping other people, it’s actually really hard to answer for yourself.”
4. “The most underrated skill in leadership is self-awareness.”
5. “The power of great coaching is that you can see things that others can’t see. And you’re bold enough to say what others won’t dare to say.”
6. “I don’t need to be better at what they do than they are. They’re the best in the planet at what they do. I’m the one who’s bold enough to challenge their thinking.”
7. “If your heart tells you to say this to do this, then you need to lean into that edge, even if it’s to start off by saying, ‘Hey, I feel a little bit nervous to say this.’”
8. “If you’re addicted to alcohol, to drugs, to sex, to the internet, there’s all sorts of help you can get to support you. If you’re addicted to work, everything is set up to support you in doing more of it.”
9. “You need things that nurture your spirit. And as much as doing work that you love can feel great, it doesn’t always nurture your soul.”
10. “We’re not stronger than that algorithm. We can’t be. So we need ways to support.”

Key Takeaways

1. Ask “What Do You Want?” This simple yet powerful question unlocks clarity and reveals what truly matters.
2. Self-Awareness Fuels Success. Great leaders reflect on their actions and embrace honest feedback to grow.
3. Energy Drives Achievement. Identify what energizes or drains you to create more capacity for meaningful work.
4. Growth Comes From Discomfort. The most fulfilling moments come when you step outside your comfort zone.
5. Presence Nourishes the Soul. Activities like walking, reading, or connecting with loved ones demand your full attention and lead to greater fulfillment.
6. Community Accelerates Growth. Honest, supportive relationships amplify self-awareness and help you thrive.

Resources

• Rich Litvin’s Website: richlitvin.com
• The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler
• Rich Litvin’s 1 Insight Podcast

Watch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/-xmywu_fDi0

This episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound

In this episode of The Double Win Show, Michael Hyatt and Megan Hyatt Miller interview Ian Morgan Cron, bestselling author, psychotherapist, and Episcopal priest. Ian shares insights from his new book, The Fix, offering a fresh perspective on how the 12 Steps can transform lives—even for those who don’t identify as addicts. This episode dives into universal human struggles, addressing how we numb pain, avoid truth, and search for solutions in all the wrong places.

Memorable Quotes

1. “Trying to solve an inside problem with an outside solution doesn’t work.”
2. “Human beings are always on the prowl for a fix, looking for something to distract or numb the big ache of what it means to be simply human.”
3. “All human beings are fundamentally restless.”
4. “The whole point of the 12-step program is to facilitate a spiritual awakening of sufficient force that it expels the need for external solutions to internal problems.”
5. “Real happiness comes when you make memories in community.”
6. “People get sick in secret. They get well together.”
7. “The three most courageous words in the world are ‘I need help.’”
8. “Powerlessness is a superpower. When you finally admit ‘I am powerless’ or ‘I do not have control over nearly as much of life as I think I do’ suddenly a great, great burden is lifted from your shoulders.”
9. “Ultimately what we want for ourselves and the people we love most is freedom.”
10. “All addicts are frustrated mystics.”
11. “As I’ve kind of unraveled the codependency addiction that I had, I’ve realized that I have to just be okay with people not changing. I want them to change. I pray for them to change. But they have to want it.”
12. “Your addiction is just a bad solution to a very real problem.”
13. “The number one addiction? Playing God.”

Key Takeaways

1. The Big Ache: Everyone carries a longing—an ache—for more. When unmet, it often leads to unhealthy patterns like workaholism, social media scrolling, or compulsive busyness.
2. A Plan for Transformation: The 12 Steps offer a simple yet profound roadmap to freedom and flourishing, focusing on making peace with God, yourself, and others.
3. Addiction Looks Different for High Achievers: Addiction isn’t always dramatic. For leaders and professionals, it might show up as perfectionism, control, or overworking.
4. Healing Happens in Community: Isolation perpetuates pain; healing requires connection.
5. Surrender Leads to Freedom: Admitting powerlessness isn’t failure—it’s the beginning of true transformation.

Resources

• The Fix by Ian Morgan Cron
• Ian Morgan Cron’s Website: ianmorgancron.com

Watch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/ZA73bOupPL8

This episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound

In this episode of The Double Win Show, Megan Hyatt Miller delivers a powerful and heartfelt keynote about her journey as CEO of Full Focus. She candidly shares the lessons she’s learned through leadership challenges, personal growth, and the pursuit of sustainable success.

Drawing on her experiences, Megan offers four unconventional keys for success as a leader. Whether you’re a business leader, entrepreneur, or simply someone seeking greater fulfillment, this episode is packed with wisdom to help you align your priorities and grow into the person you’re meant to be.

Memorable Quotes

1. “Most worthwhile things are harder and take longer than we think they should… They’re really costly, and often painful, and always testing the limits of our patience.”
2. “These experiences of resistance strengthen the architecture of our character enough to hold the weight of success. Sustainable success demands maturity.”
3. “The hardest problems—the ones that make us want to throw in the towel—are often the exact reason we’re in the room.”
4. “If you could dare to believe it, problems aren’t a bug, they’re a feature—a feature that grows us up.”
5. “You can’t wait until you’ve arrived to start living fully. You have to build the life you want as you go.”
6. “The process of becoming is the best part of being human. That sense of reaching for more, of fulfilling our potential, of growing into the kinds of people our younger selves would admire—that’s the heart of a life well-lived.”

Key Takeaways

1. Less is More. Growth requires focus and patience. Overextending leads to burnout, but prioritizing what truly matters ensures lasting impact.
2. Problems Aren’t Problems. They’re not signs of failure but invitations to grow stronger and wiser. Accept them as part of the process.
3. Keep On Going. Success takes time, persistence, and maturity. Stay committed to the journey, even when it’s hard.
4. Remember What Matters. True fulfillment comes from balancing professional achievements with a thriving personal life.

Resources

• The Miracle Morning by Hal Elrod
• Chef’s Table on Netflix

Watch on Youtube at:  https://youtu.be/My97MA_b9KE

This episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound

In this episode of The Double Win Show, Michael Hyatt and Megan Hyatt Miller are joined by Brad Johnson, host of the Do Business Do Life podcast, to discuss how to achieve sustainable success in both work and life even when it means defying industry norms. Brad Johnson discusses his journey from financial advisor to co-founder of Triad Partners, showing how he balances professional success with personal fulfillment. Brad highlights how challenges signal growth, advocating for therapy, humility, and embracing the "infinite game" to thrive in work and life.

Memorable Quotes

1. “When all you do is deal with money all day, every day, sometimes people can get consumed by it. The pursuit of it… They accidentally build the prison around themselves that they’re trying to break out of.”
2. “I can’t buy time back. There’s a more valuable asset on the line and it’s time.”
3. “A weekly paycheck is the most addictive drug in the world.”
4. “It’s completely different to be a great business owner than to be a great financial advisor.”
5. “Your differences are your strengths.”
6. “People will not follow volatile leaders.”
7. “Every entrepreneur should be in therapy and that’s whether or not they think they need it.”
8. “The challenge is the reward for going to the next level.”
9. “The biggest thing is if you want to build a business bigger than you, you better focus a ton on vision, a ton on culture.”

Key Takeaways

1. Culture Matters: Businesses often underinvest in culture and vision, which are essential for lasting growth.
2. Redefining Success: Brad shows how to ensure your business serves your life, not dominates it.
3. Integration Over Balance: Treat work and life as partners rather than competitors.
4. Lead by Growing: Personal growth, including therapy, is vital for effective leadership.
5. Relationships First: Strong connections drive fulfillment and business success.

Resources

• Do Business Do Life Podcast by Brad Johnson
• Not Fade Away by Peter Barton

Watch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/F7s45VRJmfw

This episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound

In this episode of The Double Win Show, Michael Hyatt and Megan Hyatt Miller sit down with Daniel Harkavy, CEO of Building Champions and author of The 7 Perspectives of Effective Leaders. Daniel shares practical strategies for thriving as a leader by first thriving as a person. From setting boundaries to crafting a life plan, his advice will help you create lasting success at work and at home.

Memorable Quotes

1. “[Being well-balanced] elevates leadership efficacy because people are making conscious and subconscious decisions about who you are as a person by what they see, what they observe, how you speak, how you feel.”
2. “It’s very difficult to find a place of contentment if you’re playing the competition game.”
3. “I’m not being driven out of a place of scarcity. I’m being driven out of a place of opportunity and out of a burden to help and an opportunity to make a difference.”
4. “Self-leadership always precedes team effectiveness and team effectiveness always precedes organizational impact.”
5. “Management meetings are a lot of telling. Coaching sessions are a lot of asking.”
6. “I think that is what really needs to be at the heart of a coaching leader: It’s not that you are just comfortable with your people being better than you are. You actually desire it.”
7. “A leader’s effectiveness is determined by just two things: The decisions they make and the influence they have.”
8. “My morning routine is my vacation every day. I get a vacation first thing in the morning. I don’t have to wake up early. I get to.”

Key Takeaways

1. Self-Leadership First: Your effectiveness as a leader begins with how well you lead yourself. This includes setting boundaries and prioritizing personal well-being.
2. Boundaries Enable Freedom: Setting clear boundaries helps leaders avoid burnout and stay fully present in their personal and professional lives.
3. The Power of a Life Plan: Taking time to define what matters most reduces regret and ensures intentional investment in all areas of life.
4. Coaching Leadership: Great leaders empower their teams by asking questions, fostering growth, and prioritizing curiosity over control.
5. Contentment vs. Complacency: Strive for excellence from a place of abundance, not scarcity, by cultivating gratitude and staying grounded in what matters.

Resources

• Becoming a Coaching Leader by Daniel Harkavy
• The 7 Perspectives of Effective Leaders by Daniel Harkavy
• Living Forward by Michael Hyatt and Daniel Harkavy
• Learn More About Building Champions: buildingchampions.com
  • Facebook: www.facebook.com/buildingchampions
  • LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/building-champions
  • Instagram: www.instagram.com/buildingchamps
  • Performance Coaching: www.buildingchampions.com/performance-coaching

Executive Retreats: www.buildingchampions.com/executive-retreats

Watch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/obYSZ1sTGP8

This episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound

In this episode of The Double Win Show, Michael Hyatt and Megan Hyatt Miller talk with Jon Gordon, bestselling author of The Energy Bus and The Power of Positive Leadership. Jon shares his journey from negativity to a thriving, positive life and the principles he’s developed to help teams and individuals succeed.

From practical strategies for fueling positive energy to addressing the root causes of negativity, Jon’s wisdom is a must-hear for leaders striving to win at work and succeed at home.

Memorable Quotes

1. “Every one of us is going to have to overcome negativity, adversity, and challenges to ultimately define ourselves and our team's success. And the main message is: You have to overcome negativity with positivity.”
2. “You’re the driver. You decide the kind of ride it’s going to be… It’s all about ownership.”
3. “You write down your success of the day and every night you go to bed a success. Every morning you wake up a success. You’re now creating more and more success because what you focus on starts to show up more in your life.”
4. “The root for the Greek word ‘anxious’ means to separate and divide. And so someone who’s anxious, they feel separate and divided. What does fear do? Divides.”
5. “The change happened when I started to take walks of gratitude every day because I read you can’t be stressed and thankful at the same time.”
6. “You’re not the thoughts you think—you’re the thoughts you believe. Negative thoughts are going to come in all the time. What thoughts are you believing and what stories are you choosing to believe about yourself?”
7. “There’s a feeling that you’re winning [at work and at home] and yet at the same time, you’re probably always going to feel like. ‘What can I do better? And how can I do this more in both places?’ I call it positive discontent.”

Key Takeaways

1. You’re the Driver: Own your energy and your impact. Leaders set the tone for their teams and must model positivity.
2. Fuel Your Energy Daily: Practices like gratitude walks, journaling, and prayer can help leaders stay energized and engaged.
3. Address Negativity Head-On: Successful leaders confront issues directly, fostering accountability and growth without demeaning their teams.
4. Build Positive Team Cultures: Principles like “No Complaining Without a Solution” and “Love + Accountability” transform how teams function.

Resources

• The Energy Bus by Jon Gordon
• The Power of Positive Leadership by Jon Gordon
• The Success Journal by Jon Gordon

Learn more about Jon Gordon’s work at jongordon.com

Watch on YouTube at:  https://youtu.be/pr_itESG_GA

Podcast:  This episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound