The Edge Podcast

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  • Crypto Is Winning, Tokens Aren't: Why Fundamentals Matter More Than Ever

    Grant is the Founder & CEO of Blocmates, and 563 is Head of Research.

    Crypto is winning, but tokens aren't. Headlines that would have pumped markets 30-40% in 2021 barely move prices today. There's a massive disconnect between fundamentals and price action--record adoption, institutional integration, real-world use cases, yet token prices are bleeding. Grant and 563 break down why this paradox exists, where the industry goes from here, and what actually matters this year in their newly published Blocmates 2026 Thesis.

    In this episode:
    + The paradox: Why fundamentals are up but token prices are down
    + Token distribution and fixing tokenholder rights for real ownership
    + Why we don't need more L1s and what wins: distribution or innovation
    + ZK as the unlock for Ethereum scaling and new on-chain products
    + Where Blocmates is deploying capital in 2026

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    💎 THIS EPISODE'S PARTNERS

    ♉︎ TOROS | Exponential gains with leveraged tokens

    🌅 NEUTRL | The next generation of crypto-native yield

    🛡️ ACCOUNTABLE | Real-time financial verification

    🕛 NOON | The highest and safest stablecoin yield, built for the long term

    ⚔️ KATANA | Deep liquidity & real yield

    🔊 DECIBEL | The new sound of trading

    🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DeFi's premium yield asset

    🏦 MANTLE | Innovating the future of onchain finance

    🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | ETH staking solutions for scale

    ⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | Onchain lending reimagined

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    ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 - Intro
    1:40 - Blocmates 2026 thesis overview
    4:37 - Crypto is winning, tokens aren’t, the paradox explained
    16:53 - The token distribution problem: founders vs. community expectations
    21:06 - Why we don't need more general-purpose chains
    23:41 - Distribution vs. innovation: What wins in 2026?
    29:45 - Will TradFi rebuild, acquire, or partner with DeFi?
    34:28 - Fixing tokenholder rights: Tokens as real ownership
    41:29 - x402 is the start of something big
    45:32 - How ZK unlocks Ethereum scaling and new onchain products
    53:06 - Why demand for onchain privacy is coming
    56:33 - Could RWAs become the most traded assets onchain?
    1:00:18 - Why regulation could be crypto's biggest catalyst
    1:03:20 - Where Blocmates is deploying capital in 2026
    1:06:56 - Closing

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    🔗 GUEST LINKS

    ► Blocmates website: https://blocmates.com/
    ► Blocmates on X: https://x.com/blocmates
    ► Grant on X: https://x.com/Grantblocmates
    ► 563 on X: https://x.com/563defi
    ► The Blocmates 2026 Thesis: https://www.blocmates.com/articles/the-blocmates-2026-thesis

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    🎙️ MORE FROM THE EDGE PODCAST AND EDGE NEWSLETTER

    ► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz
    ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod
    ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify
    ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
    ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad
    ► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap
    ► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/

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    DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast.

    1 hr 9 min
  • How Vaults Are Bringing DeFi To Millions

    Sun Raghupathi is CoFounder and CEO of Veda.

    DeFi is living through interesting times: record adoption, proven infrastructure, institutional interest—but low sentiment and struggling token prices. Sun calls this "the enterprise era for DeFi," where protocols that don't have a B2B strategy for the largest financial institutions may not survive. But here's the opportunity: for the first time, DeFi is actually ready for mainstream users. In fact, Kraken just launched new DeFi Earn vaults powered by Veda, giving millions of users instant access to onchain yields without leaving the Kraken app.

    In this episode, we cover:
    + DeFi's enormous future in enterprise partnerships and distribution
    + How Veda vaults work: custody, risk management, and yield strategies
    + Breaking down Kraken's new DeFi Earn vaults
    + Veda's business model and path to profitability

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    💎 THIS EPISODE'S PARTNERS

    ♉︎ TOROS | Exponential gains with leveraged tokens

    🌅 NEUTRL | The next generation of crypto-native yield

    🛡️ ACCOUNTABLE | Real-time financial verification

    🕛 NOON | The highest and safest stablecoin yield, built for the long term

    ⚔️ KATANA | Deep liquidity & real yield

    🔊 DECIBEL | The new sound of trading

    🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DeFi's premium yield asset

    🏦 MANTLE | Innovating the future of onchain finance

    🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | ETH staking solutions for scale

    ⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | Onchain lending reimagined

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    ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 - Intro
    1:52 - DeFi’s identity crisis, record adoption vs sentiment
    5:35 - The value capture question, DeFi protocols or institutions?
    6:47 - Will businesses build or partner?
    12:15 - Enterprise DeFi predictions for 2026
    15:05 - What are vaults and why does DeFi need them?
    17:35 - Not all vaults are created equally
    21:36 - Veda's evolution from ether.fi to enterprise vaults
    27:16 - Breaking down Kraken DeFi Earn, powered by Veda
    29:33 - Kraken DeFi Earn vault details
    38:21 - Human vs. AI curation for DeFi vaults
    40:36 - Integrating AI into Veda's vault system
    42:22 - What institutions need from Veda
    43:52 - Veda’s business model and path to profitability
    47:24 - Veda’s partners: ether.fi, Plasma, Mantle, and more
    49:29 - Will there be a VEDA token?
    50:02 - Closing

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    🔗 GUEST LINKS

    ► Veda website: https://veda.tech/
    ► Veda on X: https://x.com/veda_labs
    ► Sun Raghupathi on X: https://x.com/sunandr_

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    🎙️ MORE FROM THE EDGE PODCAST AND EDGE NEWSLETTER

    ► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz
    ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod
    ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify
    ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
    ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad
    ► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap
    ► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/

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    DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad invested in the seed round for Veda.

    52 min
  • Pendle's Revenue Breakdown (And Why Boros Could Explode in 2026) | Revenue Meta

    TN Lee is CoFounder and CEO of Pendle.

    Pendle generates revenue through two streams: YT fees (5% of all yield and points accrued) and swap fees from PT trading activity. The protocol settled $45 billion in value for PT holders in just 2025, nearly doubling revenue YoY as TVL grew from $6.9B to $13.4B. But the real story for 2026 is Boros, Pendle's new rates trading platform that's already hit $200M in open interest and is positioning itself as infrastructure for the explosive growth in onchain RWA and equity perps.

    In this episode of Revenue Meta, we cover:
    + Pendle's dual revenue model
    + Why vePENDLE is being replaced with sPENDLE
    + How Boros enables traders to hedge funding rate risk on CEX/DEX perps
    + 2026 growth strategy: RWAs, institutional adoption, and rates trading at scale

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    💎 THIS EPISODE'S PARTNERS

    ♉︎ TOROS | Exponential gains with leveraged tokens

    🌅 NEUTRL | The next generation of crypto-native yield

    🛡️ ACCOUNTABLE | Real-time financial verification

    🕛 NOON | The highest and safest stablecoin yield, built for the long term

    ⚔️ KATANA | Deep liquidity & real yield

    🔊 DECIBEL | The new sound of trading

    🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DeFi's premium yield asset

    🏦 MANTLE | Innovating the future of onchain finance

    🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | ETH staking solutions for scale

    ⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | Onchain lending reimagined

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    ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 - Intro
    1:40 - What are Pendle V2 and Boros?
    5:58 - YoY growth in 2025
    8:40 - Pendle's dual revenue model, swap fees and YT fees
    9:42 - TVL vs volume as drivers for revenue
    11:18 - $45B in value settled for PT holders
    12:42 - The October 10th flash crash and its impact
    17:05 - Why the vePENDLE model needed to change
    23:49 - Introducing sPENDLE
    31:16 - The team behind Pendle
    33:44 - Pendle's target customers in 2026
    35:42 - Growth strategy and goals for 2026
    41:51 - Key trends for 2026: RWAs, rates trading, and equity perps
    45:20 - How traders use Boros to hedge funding rate risk
    48:50 - Closing

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    🔗 GUEST LINKS

    ► Pendle website: https://pendle.finance/
    ► Boros website: https://boros.pendle.finance/markets
    ► Pendle on X: https://x.com/pendle_fi
    ► Boros on X: https://x.com/boros_fi
    ► TN Lee on X: https://x.com/tn_pendle

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    🎙️ MORE FROM THE EDGE PODCAST AND EDGE NEWSLETTER

    ► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz
    ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod
    ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify
    ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
    ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad
    ► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap
    ► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/

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    DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast.

    50 min
  • The Social Contract Is Broken: A Macro View On Crypto's Role

    The social contract is broken. Boomers keep getting bailed out while Millennials and Gen Z are told to buy bonds that yield less than inflation. Tyler Neville from Muddy Waters Capital and co-host of Forward Guidance, breaks down why traditional markets feel rigged, where real growth is happening, and what needs to happen for Bitcoin to break through $100K.

    In this episode:
    + Why traditional markets feel rigged and the 60/40 portfolio is dead
    + Frontiers to invest in: AI, space, energy, nuclear, and crypto
    + How interest rates and bond volatility affect crypto
    + What Bitcoin needs for new highs and the next mega bid for crypto

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    💎 THIS EPISODE'S PARTNERS

    ♉︎ TOROS | Exponential gains with leveraged tokens

    🌅 NEUTRL | The next generation of crypto-native yield

    🛡️ ACCOUNTABLE | Real-time financial verification

    🕛 NOON | The highest and safest stablecoin yield, built for the long term

    ⚔️ KATANA | Deep liquidity & real yield

    🔊 DECIBEL | The new sound of trading

    🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DeFi's premium yield asset

    🏦 MANTLE | Innovating the future of onchain finance

    🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | ETH staking solutions for scale

    ⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | Onchain lending reimagined

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    ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 - Intro
    1:49 - Tyler's background and macro perspective
    4:07 - The 2026 macro landscape, how Boomers broke the system
    10:21 - Why markets feel rigged and the illusion of free markets
    18:10 - Where real growth is: space, AI, energy, and nuclear
    23:01 - Why bonds are dead for Millennials and Gen Z
    35:03 - Why we’re moving back to building real things
    40:26 - How interest rates and bond volatility affect crypto
    45:35 - Gold, silver strength, and what Bitcoin needs for new highs
    49:28 - What DeFi should have been (and can still become)
    52:17 - The next mega bid for crypto
    57:16 - Closing

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    🔗 GUEST LINKS

    ► Tyler on X: https://x.com/Tyler_Neville_
    ► Forward Guidance on X: https://x.com/ForwardGuidance

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    🎙️ MORE FROM THE EDGE PODCAST AND EDGE NEWSLETTER

    ► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz
    ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod
    ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify
    ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
    ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad
    ► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap
    ► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/

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    DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast.

    1 hr
  • Vaults Are Eating DeFi Yield: Why Institutions Are Paying Attention | Yield Talks

    Chris Bradbury and Jordan Jackson from Summer.fi break down how vaults are becoming the consumable layer for DeFi yield and why institutions are finally paying attention.
    DeFi yield hunting is exhausting. Constant research, endless transactions, protocol risk assessment: it's a full-time job. Summer.fi helps solve this by packaging the best yields into vaults with DAO-managed risk controls, allowing users to deposit once and earn passively.

    In this episode, we cover:
    + How Summer curates and automates access to top-tier DeFi yields
    + DAO governance and risk management
    + Summer's institutional strategy and how fintechs can customize vault strategies
    + SUMR token launch on Aerodrome and what's coming in 2026

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    💎 THIS EPISODE'S PARTNERS

    ♉︎ TOROS | Exponential gains with leveraged tokens

    🌅 NEUTRL | The next generation of crypto-native yield

    🛡️ ACCOUNTABLE | Real-time financial verification

    🕛 NOON | The highest and safest stablecoin yield, built for the long term

    ⚔️ KATANA | Deep liquidity & real yield

    🔊 DECIBEL | The new sound of trading

    🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DeFi's premium yield asset

    🏦 MANTLE | Innovating the future of onchain finance

    🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | ETH staking solutions for scale

    ⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | Onchain lending reimagined

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    ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 - Intro + What is Summer.fi?
    2:58 - SUMR token design and structure
    8:36 - Making SUMR transferrable and Aerodrome launch
    15:07 - Curating the highest quality yields from top-tier protocols
    20:52 - Risk management and protocol curation
    33:29 - Institutional strategy and B2B integrations
    39:56 - How institutions customize their vault strategies
    45:13 - What’s coming in 2026, DAO-managed vaults and new yield sources
    51:02 - Closing

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    🔗 GUEST LINKS

    ► Summer.fi website: https://summer.fi/
    ► Summer Finance on X: https://x.com/summerfinance_
    ► Chris Bradbury on X: https://x.com/chrisbducky
    ► Jordan Jackson on X: https://x.com/samehueasyou

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    🎙️ MORE FROM THE EDGE PODCAST AND EDGE NEWSLETTER

    ► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz
    ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod
    ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify
    ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
    ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad
    ► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap
    ► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/

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    DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast.

    54 min
  • Maple's Path to $100M ARR | Revenue Meta

    Introducing Revenue Meta—a new series by The Edge Podcast spotlighting DeFi protocols that actually generate cashflows and return value to tokenholders.

    There aren't many protocols that can answer the simple question: How does your business make money? We're starting with Maple Finance, where CoFounder & CEO Sid Powell breaks down their revenue model, treasury management, and path from $30M to $100M ARR.

    In this episode:

    + How Maple generates revenue through over-collateralized lending
    + Revenue allocation: treasury management, buybacks, and building strategic reserves
    + The roadmap to $100M ARR and how they grow their loan book
    + Why Maple is a pure token play, no hidden equity, all value flows to SYRUP holders

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    💎 THIS EPISODE'S PARTNERS

    ♉︎ TOROS | Exponential gains with leveraged tokens

    🌅 NEUTRL | The next generation of crypto-native yield

    🛡️ ACCOUNTABLE | Real-time financial verification

    🕛 NOON | The highest and safest stablecoin yield, built for the long term

    ⚔️ KATANA | Deep liquidity & real yield

    🔊 DECIBEL | The new sound of trading

    🏦 MANTLE | Innovating the future of onchain finance

    🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | ETH staking solutions for scale

    ⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | Onchain lending reimagined

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    ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 - Intro
    5:16 - How Maple generates revenue
    7:20 - Maple revenue allocation and treasury management
    9:59 - Building Maple’s strategic reserve
    12:23 - How big must the book of loans grow to reach $100M ARR?
    13:29 - Strengthening Maple's balance sheet
    16:04 - Maple’s business is very scalable
    18:01 - The napkin math on Maple’s ARR growth from syrupUSDT
    21:40 - Operating under pro-crypto regulation
    24:30 - New products and innovations coming to Maple
    29:04 - SYRUP, one token for the Maple ecosystem
    30:39 - Closing

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    🔗 GUEST LINKS

    ► Maple website: https://maple.finance/
    ► Maple on X: https://x.com/maplefinance
    ► Sid on X: https://x.com/syrupsid
    ► Maple Dune dashboard: https://dune.com/maple-finance/maple-finance

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    🎙️ MORE FROM THE EDGE PODCAST AND EDGE NEWSLETTER

    ► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz
    ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod
    ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify
    ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
    ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad
    ► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap
    ► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/

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    DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast.

    32 min
  • Our 2026 Crypto Playbook: 7 Predictions For The Year Ahead

    DeFi Dad and Nomadic break down the biggest lessons from 2025 and share their playbook for navigating crypto in 2026.

    Every cycle feels familiar yet completely different, and 2025 proved that again. Bitcoin dominance stayed high, the altcoin rally never came, stablecoin supply rose to new highs, and institutional adoption accelerated faster than expected. Now we're looking ahead to what 2026 holds for crypto investors.

    In this episode:
    + Why Bitcoin dominance stayed high and traditional cycle signals failed
    + The year institutional adoption and friendly regulation became undeniable
    + Our 7 predictions for 2026: ETH outperformance, stablecoins hitting $1T, RWA looping, agentic finance, and more
    + Why patience and doing nothing might be your best edge in crypto

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    💎 THIS EPISODE'S PARTNERS

    ♉︎ TOROS | Exponential gains with leveraged tokens

    🌅 NEUTRL | The next generation of crypto-native yield

    🛡️ ACCOUNTABLE | Real-time financial verification

    🕛 NOON | The highest and safest stablecoin yield, built for the long term

    ⚔️ KATANA | Deep liquidity & real yield

    🔊 DECIBEL | The new sound of trading

    🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DeFi's premium yield asset

    🏦 MANTLE | Innovating the future of onchain finance

    🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | ETH staking solutions for scale

    ⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | Onchain lending reimagined

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    ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 - Intro
    2:12 - Why Bitcoin dominance never broke
    4:16 - 2025: The institutional adoption year
    7:27 - How regulation became a catalyst
    8:57 - Bull market top signals didn’t work this cycle
    12:26 - Will 2026 repeat 2018 or 2022?
    17:23 - What DeFi growing up taught us
    28:33 - Prediction #1: BTC and ETH grow as collateral
    32:53 - Prediction #2: Stablecoins hit $1T (ETH wins)
    39:18 - Prediction #3: DeFi shifts to fundamentals
    43:00 - Prediction #4: CLARITY Act passes
    46:53 - Prediction #5: RWA looping explodes
    55:00 - Prediction #6: ETH outperforms
    1:03:30: Prediction #7: Agentic finance moment
    1:06:47 - Closing

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    🔗 MORE FROM THE EDGE PODCAST AND EDGE NEWSLETTER

    ► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz
    ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod
    ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify
    ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
    ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad
    ► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap
    ► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/

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    DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast.

    1 hr 9 min
  • Crypto’s Next Phase: Beyond The 4-Year Cycle

    Rob Hadick is a General Partner at Dragonfly.

    As we enter the new year, we discuss why we all believe crypto is entering its next phase beyond the Bitcoin 4-year halving cycle, as institutional adoption, stablecoins, and real fundamentals reshape the market outlook for 2026.

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    🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗

    ► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz
    ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod
    ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify
    ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
    ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad
    ► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap
    ► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/

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    The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources

    ♉︎ TOROS | EXPONENTIAL GAINS WITH LEVERAGED TOKENS

    ♦️ REDSTONE | THE LEADING MODULAR BLOCKCHAIN ORACLE

    🌅 NEUTRL | THE NEXT GENERATION OF CRYPTO-NATIVE YIELD

    🛡️ ACCOUNTABLE | THE NEW STANDARD FOR REAL-TIME FINANCIAL VERIFICATION

    🕛 NOON | THE HIGHEST AND SAFEST STABLECOIN YIELD, BUILT FOR THE LONG TERM

    ⚔️ KATANA | DEEP LIQUIDITY & REAL YIELD

    🔊 DECIBEL | THE NEW SOUND OF TRADING

    🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DEFI'S PREMIUM YIELD ASSET

    🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE

    🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | STAKING SOLUTIONS FOR SCALE

    ⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED

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    Timestamps

    0:00 - Intro
    1:27 - Background at Dragonfly
    5:57 - Crypto is moving into the institutional phase
    13:57 - Crypto’s pivot to fundamentals
    17:10 - Will the 4-year cycle repeat?
    22:15 - Outlook for crypto prices in 2026
    27:49 - Opportunity to improve transparency in DeFi yields
    37:25 - Promise of privacy tech and zero-knowledge
    41:10 - What Rob got wrong in 2025
    46:48 - Betting on stablecoin growth
    49:36 - Contrarian bullish ideas for 2026
    53:22 - What’s next for Polymarket and prediction markets?
    56:59 - Closing

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    🔗 Guest Links 🔗

    ► Dragonfly website: https://dragonfly.xyz/
    ► Dragonfly on X: https://x.com/dragonfly_xyz
    ► Rob on X: https://x.com/HadickM

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    Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast.

    59 min
  • How Ostium Aims To Make Every Global Market Tradable Onchain

    Kaledora Fontana Kiernan-Linn is the CoFounder and CEO of Ostium.

    In this episode, we learn how Ostium is building a next-gen trading platform on Arbitrum, bringing deep liquidity to asset classes like commodities, equities, indices, and RWAs onchain, while pursuing a unique long-term vision to reinvent CFD-style market access through DeFi.

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    🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗

    ► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz
    ► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad
    ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod
    ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify
    ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
    ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad
    ► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap
    ► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/

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    The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources

    ♉︎ TOROS | EXPONENTIAL GAINS WITH LEVERAGED TOKENS

    ♦️ REDSTONE | THE LEADING MODULAR BLOCKCHAIN ORACLE

    🌅 NEUTRL | THE NEXT GENERATION OF CRYPTO-NATIVE YIELD

    🌞 SOLSTICE | PERMISSIONLESS INSTITUTIONAL YIELD

    ⚔️ KATANA | DEEP LIQUIDITY & REAL YIELD

    🔊 DECIBEL | THE NEW SOUND OF TRADING

    🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DEFI'S PREMIUM YIELD ASSET

    🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE

    🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | STAKING SOLUTIONS FOR SCALE

    🌊 RIVER | A CHAIN-ABSTRACTION STABLECOIN SYSTEM

    ⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED

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    Timestamps

    0:00 - Intro and background
    10:47 - Why work in markets
    15:06 - Ostium genesis and vision
    23:31 - Overview of the Ostium platform
    26:10 - Leverage for different asset classes onchain
    30:19 - Liquidity challenges
    39:49 - The 100x opportunity and competitive advantages
    45:05 - How will Ostium use their $20M Series A
    50:05 - Closing

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    🔗 Guest Links 🔗

    ► Ostium website: https://www.ostium.com/
    ► Ostium on X: https://x.com/ostiumlabs
    ► Kaledora on X: https://x.com/kaledora

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    All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

    52 min
  • Can Blockspace Futures Lead To A Gasless, Real-Time Ethereum?

    Kevin Lepsoe is the Founder of ETHGAS.

    What if Ethereum could feel instant? In this episode, we explore whether blockspace futures trading could pave the way toward a gasless, real-time Ethereum, and what that would mean for DeFi, MEV, validators, and the broader L2 scaling roadmap.

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    🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗

    ► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz
    ► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad
    ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod
    ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify
    ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod
    ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad
    ► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap
    ► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/

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    The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources

    ♉︎ TOROS | EXPONENTIAL GAINS WITH LEVERAGED TOKENS

    ♦️ REDSTONE | THE LEADING MODULAR BLOCKCHAIN ORACLE

    🌅 NEUTRL | THE NEXT GENERATION OF CRYPTO-NATIVE YIELD

    🌞 SOLSTICE | PERMISSIONLESS INSTITUTIONAL YIELD

    ⚔️ KATANA | DEEP LIQUIDITY & REAL YIELD

    🔊 DECIBEL | THE NEW SOUND OF TRADING

    🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DEFI'S PREMIUM YIELD ASSET

    🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE

    🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | STAKING SOLUTIONS FOR SCALE

    🌊 RIVER | A CHAIN-ABSTRACTION STABLECOIN SYSTEM

    ⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED

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    Timestamps

    0:00 - Intro
    2:03 - Kevin’s background
    7:18 - Why Ethereum
    9:45 - The vision for ETHGAS
    10:26 - Understanding real-time Ethereum
    12:40 - Impact on DeFi protocols like Uniswap
    21:14 - Supporting the L2 roadmap
    24:20 - Eliminating MEV and disrupting
    28:30 - Tradeoffs
    34:24 - Competition
    40:06 - Revenue potential and monetization
    44:20 - Roadmap and rollout for ETHGAS
    45:56 - Early partners like ether.fi
    47:19 - Discussions with EF
    49:01 - Closing

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    🔗 Guest Links 🔗

    ► ETHGAS website: https://ethgas.com/
    ► ETHGAS on X: https://x.com/ethgasofficial
    ► Kevin Lepsoe on X: https://x.com/lepsoe

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    All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and Kevin all hold ETH. Since recording, DeFi Dad and Nomatic invested as angels in ETHGAS. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

    52 min

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