Welcome back to the Fintech Takes podcast. I'm Alex Johnson, joined by Andrew DiMattina, Product Architect at Persona (and expert in all things fraud and compliance, especially AML compliance), to explore the changing state of compliance in the U.S. and around the globe.

The expectation going into this administration was deregulation. What banks and fintech companies have discovered over the last 18 months is that deregulation isn't less risk; it's a transfer of risk. The checklist era was expensive but legible. This era is cheaper on paper and harder in practice, especially when it comes to fraud and compliance. 

When rules stop telling you exactly what to do, "compliance" collapses back into its actual substance: Can you really tell who your customer is and stop the bad ones?

We get into:

Why most organizations are staying the course on compliance programs even as the federal floor recedes

What the OCC's consent order against Community Federal Savings Bank reveals about when a fintech program grows faster than its controls

Why getting a charter doesn't mean your risk profile matches your size

What "know your agent" actually means when a bot might be transacting on behalf of a legitimate customer (and why it adds a new question to KYC)

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