Glenn Greenwald,

Co-Founder @ The Intercept

Author, "No Place to Hide"

Thomas Chatterton Williams

Contributing Writer @ New York Times Mag

Author, "Self Portrait in Black and White"

After a little internet drama related to the Harper's Open Letter, Kmele got together w/ Thomas and Glenn to discuss.

• Why we needed "A Letter on Justice and Debate"
• Why Glenn isn't a Signatory
• What is Cancel Culture
• Do we really need to talk about this RIGHT NOW
• Evangelism or Excommunication
• Hypocrisy and Healthier Conversations

Recorded July 24, 2020

Published July 27, 2020

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For only the second time since the Bat Flu, the lads are back in the same room...and back at the Stupid Table™ in Williamsburg. The energy! The booze! The crosstalk! Kmele singing! Yay! It's an hour and half bull session covering the most important debates in America. Zum beispiel: 

- Moynihan's new CNBC show "Stock Monstah Dood!"

- Getting psyched about--and possibly auditioning for--a show Kmele loves but has never seen

- Kmele is Mr. 2X. Moynihan is Mr. Angry Irishman Driver

- Understanding the core of the anti-racist project

- Matt's formative moment as an 18-year-old journalist

- The privileged people who hate really privileged people

- Yes, the lads talk about the endless LETTER WARS

- Kmele rants about a Jo Jorgensen tweet

- What does it mean to be anti-racist?

- If they win, we will all will end up living in a joyless world

- Back to Bay Ridge (and coming upon a pro-NYPD protest)

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w/ Josh Szeps (né Zepps), ABC Australia and host of the Uncomfortable Conversations podcast.

Josh-o's back and the dingo has his baby! Australia's most listened-to radio host joins the Fifth from his COVID-free compound in Sydney to talk nonsense about:

• Paul Hogan (obviously)
• How the Aussies handled the COVID
• That story about our friend who resigned from the Times
• "Cancel culture," right and left
• "Good Morning ya' ****s!"
• Armageddon the shit out of that rock
• Are we becoming a totalitarian hell hole? (Probably not)
• Viacom race theorist Nick Cannon on masked singers, Mariah Carey, and the Rothschilds.
• Matt knew a Nazi

Recorded July 15, 2020

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Two-plus hours with our favorite German, Herr Yascha Mounk, contributing editor at The Atlantic and founder of Persuasion, a publication dedicated to promoting and defending the "values of a free society."

The lads discuss that Harper's letter on cancel culture, signed by Kmele and Yasha (and Salman Rushdie, Martin Amis, JK Rowling, et al); the attempt to cancel people who signed a statement opposing canceling people; how everyone's still a fascist; the painful absurdity of Robin Diangelo; a Matt and Kmele fight about Trump's Mt. Rushmore speech; the dangers of the populist right; El Chino; and so very much more.

Recorded July 8, 2020

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w/ Wesley Lowery Correspondent @ CBS - "60 Minutes in 6"

Lowery Wrote A Thing:

"A Reckoning Over Objectivity, Led by Black Journalists" (NYT) - June 23, 2020

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/opinion/objectivity-black-journalists-coronavirus.html

Welch Raised Some Objections:

"Journalists Abandoning 'Objectivity' for 'Moral Clarity' Really Just Want To Call People Immoral" (Reason) - June 24, 2020

https://reason.com/2020/06/24/journalists-abandoning-objectivity-for-moral-clarity-really-just-want-to-call-people-immoral/

Some Twitter Drama Ensues.

The Parties Agree to Settle Things Directly.

...And now, here you are. All caught up, ready for the fireworks (literally + figuratively).

Recorded: July 2, 2020

Published: July 6, 2020

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w/ Jacob Siegel, Senior Writer @ Tablet

"The New Truth" (June 22nd 2020)

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/new-truth-rationalism-religion

"Journalists Abandoning 'Objectivity' for 'Moral Clarity' Really Just Want To Call People Immoral" (6/24/2020)

https://reason.com/2020/06/24/journalists-abandoning-objectivity-for-moral-clarity-really-just-want-to-call-people-immoral/

- The Lisa "Left Eye" Lopez of Journalism

- The Great Fireworks Conspiracy (continued)

- The NYT Slack

- All The Smoke

- The New Truth

- Rhetorically Invincible

- White Fragility, The Message of the Cross

- Moral Clarity

- World Heritage Sites

- The Wages of Sin

- Ethical Journalism

Recorded: June 25, 2020

Published: July 1, 2020

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w/ Jane Coaston, Senior Politics Reporter @ Vox

• Some Sports Stuff
• TickTock Swiftboats
• Tulsa
• Trumps Party
• What Comes Next
• Immigration + Visas
• The Coaston Plan
• More Black Lives Matter Talk
• But What About....
• Unbundling the Police
• Liking the Neighborhood Cops

Recorded: June 23, 2020

Published: June 25, 2020

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w/ David French, Senior Editor @ The Dispatch and Columnist @ Time

• Help With Your Down Payment?
• A Busy Day For SCOTUS
• 2A, Qualified Immunity (Part I), Expanding Civil Rights
• Thought Crimes
• On Racism (and Anti Racism)
• The Worst Dinner Party
• The Censorship Impulse
• Gone With the Wind, Song of the South
• The Lost Cause... Myth?
• What Northerners Really Want
• Still in Love w/ Daisy Duke
• Anti-racism Must Be Anti-race
• Walk Humbly, Seek Justice, See the Humanity in Your Ops
• Qualified Immunity (Part II) -- Why Qualified Immunity Matters

Recorded: June 15, 2020

Published: June 16, 2020

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w/ Olivia Nuzzi, Washington Correspondent @ New York Magazine

• An Unprecedented Movement
• Defunding the Police... Or Just Abolishing Them
• Canceling Most Things, Razing The Rest
• Moral Clarity in the News Room
• Trump on the Campaign Trail, Biden's Strengths
• Why Trump and Rudy Can't Stop Talking to Nuzzi

Recorded: June 10, 2020

Published: June 12, 2020

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• A Brief History of Right Now
• Punk Police
• It Might Actually Be Legal
• Black on Black on Black
• Bending the Knee
• NYT Civil War
• Essentialism in Practice
• Law & Order
• Passover
• MLK on Riots

Recorded:6/4/2020

Published: 6/6/2020

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