Peter and Jon explore The Flip Flop Ratio — the balance between building a business and actually living your life. They get real about what happiness looks like when you're deep in the grind, and why the best operators know when to put the flip flops on.

No fluff. Just two founders figuring out the sweet spot between ambition and enjoying the ride.

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