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Welcome back to the Fintech Takes podcast. I'm Alex Johnson, joined by Mike Hsu, former Acting Comptroller of the Currency.
I recently crossed paths with Mike at the Bank of North Dakota's fintech and stablecoin event in Fargo, where he led a 90-minute session on stablecoins from a policymaker's perspective. It was so impressive I wanted an interactive version for the podcast.
In this episode, we trace the historical lineage of stablecoins from free banking before the Civil War, through the Eurodollar market, money market funds, Satoshi Nakamoto's white paper, and Facebook's Libra announcement … all the way up to the GENIUS Act.
All regulation is path-dependent. To understand why policymakers react the way they do to stablecoins, you have to understand what shaped them.
Mike’s reading (and listening) recommendations from the episode:
Bank Notes and Shinplasters by Joshua R. Greenberg: https://www.pennpress.org/9780812252248/bank-notes-and-shinplasters/
Ways and Means by Roger Lowenstein: https://bookshop.org/p/books/ways-and-means-lincoln-and-his-cabinet-and-the-financing-of-the-civil-war-roger-lowenstein/317ffa9e260a1186
"Are Banks Special?" by E. Gerald Corrigan (Minneapolis Fed, 1982): https://www.bu.edu/econ/files/2012/01/Corrigan-Are-Banks-Special_main-text.pdf
Odd Lots, “The Hidden History of Eurodollars, Part 1: Cold War Origins:” https://omny.fm/shows/odd-lots/the-hidden-history-of-eurodollars-part-1-cold-war
Satoshi Nakamoto's Bitcoin white paper: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
Facebook’s Libra: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diem_(digital_currency)
Circle's Arc litepaper: https://arcnetwork.xyz/litepaper
Boom: Bubbles and the End of Stagnation by Byrne Hobart and Tobias Huber: https://press.stripe.com/boom
This episode is brought to you by Persona.
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And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page.
Follow Mike:
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2020 ratings
Welcome back to the Fintech Takes podcast. I'm Alex Johnson, joined by Mike Hsu, former Acting Comptroller of the Currency.
I recently crossed paths with Mike at the Bank of North Dakota's fintech and stablecoin event in Fargo, where he led a 90-minute session on stablecoins from a policymaker's perspective. It was so impressive I wanted an interactive version for the podcast.
In this episode, we trace the historical lineage of stablecoins from free banking before the Civil War, through the Eurodollar market, money market funds, Satoshi Nakamoto's white paper, and Facebook's Libra announcement … all the way up to the GENIUS Act.
All regulation is path-dependent. To understand why policymakers react the way they do to stablecoins, you have to understand what shaped them.
Mike’s reading (and listening) recommendations from the episode:
Bank Notes and Shinplasters by Joshua R. Greenberg: https://www.pennpress.org/9780812252248/bank-notes-and-shinplasters/
Ways and Means by Roger Lowenstein: https://bookshop.org/p/books/ways-and-means-lincoln-and-his-cabinet-and-the-financing-of-the-civil-war-roger-lowenstein/317ffa9e260a1186
"Are Banks Special?" by E. Gerald Corrigan (Minneapolis Fed, 1982): https://www.bu.edu/econ/files/2012/01/Corrigan-Are-Banks-Special_main-text.pdf
Odd Lots, “The Hidden History of Eurodollars, Part 1: Cold War Origins:” https://omny.fm/shows/odd-lots/the-hidden-history-of-eurodollars-part-1-cold-war
Satoshi Nakamoto's Bitcoin white paper: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
Facebook’s Libra: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diem_(digital_currency)
Circle's Arc litepaper: https://arcnetwork.xyz/litepaper
Boom: Bubbles and the End of Stagnation by Byrne Hobart and Tobias Huber: https://press.stripe.com/boom
This episode is brought to you by Persona.
Persona is the identity verification platform trusted by fintech's fastest-growing teams, from YC-backed startups to publicly traded companies. Build your identity program with enterprise-grade tools, starting at $0 with Persona's Startup Program.
Fintech Takes listeners can get a full free year through Persona’s Startup Program at withpersona.com/ftt
Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/
And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page.
Follow Mike:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-hsu-992257347/
Follow Alex Johnson:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson
X: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson

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