The Holly Pivec Podcast

The Holly Pivec Podcast

By Holly Pivec

Deception is everywhere, even in the church. So, how can we spot today's cons, cults, and counterfeits? Welcome to The Holly Pivec Podcast, where I teach how to detect and debunk deception and be a ca... more

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  1. Number 1: EP 39 | How to Find a Biblically Sound Church (Without Chasing Perfection)

    How do you know if a church is actually solid? In this episode, Holly breaks down what to look for: biblically sound teaching and healthy leadership, not perfection. She walks through the warning signs of deviant doctrines like the "prosperity gospel" and NAR teachings, and shares a practical filter for reading a church's statement of faith. Does it show real reverence for Scripture? Are there red flags pointing to NAR influence? For anyone struggling to find a biblically sound community, Holly offers practical advice. And for those already rooted in a good church, the call is to dig in and serve, not just sit back In this episode, you’ll learn: * What Makes a Church Biblically Sound * A Mature Believer’s Role * Denominational Flexibility & the Importance of Fellowship * Why You Should Evaluate Teachings & Statements of Faith Resources & Links: Join Holly’s Substack Book Club: hollypivec.substack.com Read more about NAR tactics in Holly’s book, Counterfeit Kingdom: https://a.co/d/08kKR5j9 #NAR #KathrynKrick #Discernment #FalseTeachers #Apologetics

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  2. Number 2: EP 40 | Is Your Church Leadership Actually Healthy? 3 Revealing Signs

    Doctrinal soundness, quite simply, is not enough. A church can be biblically sound and still be led by unaccountable, unhealthy leadership. In this episode, Holly breaks down three fundamental characteristics of healthy leadership, highlighting the importance of accountability, transparency, and character traits drawn from 1 Timothy 3:1–7 and Titus 1:5–9. These passages show us how to discern whether a church's leadership is actually healthy beyond biblical soundness. In this episode, you'll learn: - Why "doctrinally sound" doesn't necessarily mean "safe" - The pervasive reality of "paper elders" who do not hold the senior pastor accountable - What 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1 actually require of elders - Why governing bylaws are essential (and how they are often neglected) - The authoritarianism test: Do your leaders truly welcome questions? Resources & Links: Join Holly's Substack Book Club: https://hollypivec.substack.com Read more about NAR tactics in Holly's co-authored book, Counterfeit Kingdom: https://a.co/d/08kKR5j9 Have you ever experienced "paper elder" leadership: strong in theory, but impotent in practice? Tell us in the comments. #christianpodcasting #NAR #healthytheology #apologetics #falseteachers

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  3. Number 3: EP 38 | Beyond Kathryn Krick: The Hidden Danger of "Subtle" NAR Teachings

    Kathryn Krick, the 35-year-old lead pastor of 5F Church in Los Angeles, has gone viral for her dramatic deliverance services, theatrical style, and followers laying gifts at her feet. But while critics label her a "cult leader," many are missing a much bigger threat. In this episode, Holly reveals the critical mistake people make when evaluating flashy figures like Krick: assuming the danger is limited to sensational performers. Behind Krick’s viral clips is a core doctrine standard across the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR)—the "Fivefold Ministry." Holly breaks down how NAR teachings, apostolic authority, and coded language like "Mama" and "Papa" are being promoted by soft-spoken, seemingly balanced pastors in local churches nationwide. In this episode, you’ll learn: * Why Katherine Krick’s viral book-signing and 5F Church reflect standard NAR doctrine. * What the "Fivefold Ministry" doctrine actually teaches—and how Ephesians 4:11 is taken out of context. * The hidden meaning behind titles like "Mama," "Papa," and laying gifts at a leader's feet. * Why "subtle" NAR churches can be even more dangerous than high-profile, theatrical leaders. Resources & Links: Join Holly’s Substack Book Club: hollypivec.substack.com Read more about NAR tactics in Holly’s book, Counterfeit Kingdom: https://a.co/d/08kKR5j9 #NAR #KathrynKrick #Discernment #FalseTeachers #Apologetics

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  4. Number 4: EP 23 | Is "Listening Prayer" Biblical? How "Listening Prayer Retreats" Hinder Spiritual Growth

    Is "listening prayer" the key to intimacy with God, as many Christian teachers claim? In this deep-dive conversation, we discuss a particular view of prayer as "two-way communication" and explore how seeking audible voices or mystical promptings can be a distraction from true spiritual growth. If you’ve ever felt stuck waiting to "hear from God" or worried that you’re missing God's specific instructions for your life, this episode is for you. In this video, we explore a more robust, biblical framework for intimacy with God. The topics we address include: True "Conversation" with God: How God communicates through a mind transformed by Scripture. Wisdom Over Formulas: Why God wants you to grow into an "empowered agent" rather than a puppet waiting for instructions. The Dallas Willard Connection: A personal look at Willard’s approach to "hearing God." The Obedience Key: Why acting on what you already know is the surest path to intimacy with God. RESOURCES MENTIONED Hearing God by Dallas Willard - https://www.amazon.com/Hearing-God-Developing-Conversational-Relationship/dp/1514011573 Have you ever felt pressured to "hear a voice" in your prayer life? Let’s discuss in the comments. I’m curious to hear your experiences with "listening prayer." If you want to deepen your spiritual discernment, make sure to subscribe and hit the bell icon! #ChristianDiscernment #HearingGod #DallasWillard #PrayerLife #BiblicalWisdom #ChristianLiving #Discernment #Theology

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  5. Number 5: EP 22 | Is the Pressure to "Hear God's Voice" Preventing You from Actually Knowing Him?: An Interview with Doug Geivett (Part 1)

    In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Doug Geivett, my co-author and long-time colleague, to discuss a very popular teaching in the church right now: “hearing God’s voice” outside of Scripture. Doug and I have co-authored four books on the New Apostolic Reformation. In this conversation, which is part of my larger series on "hearing God's voice," we address why the modern expectation of daily private messages from God has become so widespread and why it is spiritually risky. We respond to real pushback messages I have received, including claims that relying on Scripture to mediate God's voice means you only have a “relationship with a book.” We explain why that argument undermines both biblical authority and true intimacy with God. We also dig into what the Bible actually teaches about the Holy Spirit’s role in the believer’s life, what “being led by the Spirit” means, and why obedience is the biblical foundation for intimacy with God, not chasing impressions, dreams, or inner promptings. 00:00 Intro and who Doug Geivett is 01:53 Why this topic hits a nerve and the pushback has been intense 03:51 Why “hearing God’s voice” is so appealing and why it became mainstream now 06:08 How expectations are shaped by church culture and imitation 08:35 The personal draw: intimacy, immediacy, and “God speaking to me” 10:35 Main dangers: replacing real intimacy with an artificial metric 12:18 The irony: seeking intimacy but actually blocking it 14:35 Social pressure, spiritual insecurity, and manufactured experiences 19:06 Reading pushback comments: “relationship with a book” and “living God speaks” 21:07 Why Scripture still governs the question, even if God speaks in other ways 24:19 Psalm 119 and why God’s Word is not “just a book” 28:35 Why impressions are also a medium, and the inconsistency in the critique 30:37 A sincere concern: “being led by the Spirit” and daily guidance 34:47 Acts, decision making, and “it seemed good to us” vs “God told me” 37:09 John 14 and what Jesus actually promised about the Holy Spirit 41:29 Fruit of the Spirit and what it means to be led by the Spirit 43:34 “Does God speak English?” Clarifying what people mean by “God spoke” 45:44 Guidance through maturity vs claiming private revealed words 47:52 Imagination based practices and why that is a problem 50:19 The core claim: intimacy with God is grounded in obedience, not voice chasing 52:24 Outro

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