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In the last two presidential elections about 8 in 10 evangelicals voted for Donald Trump, but can Kamala Harris steal some of those votes in 2024? We discuss the recent "Evangelicals for Harris" call and why it's so difficult to get Christians to think more theologically about politics. Ed Stetzer argues that abortion should still be a top priority when voting, and Tyler Huckabee says we should be uncomfortable endorsing any candidate. Then, Skye talks to New Testament professor, Dr. Gary Burge, about the ongoing Israeli/Palestinian conflict, and what the Bible really says about Israel's claim on the Holy Land.

0:00 - Intro

1:30 - Show Starts and Kaitlyn's Opinion on Vacations

4:53 - Theme Song

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12:21 - Discussing the Evangelicals for Harris Call

21:08 - Jemar Tisby and Thick vs Thin Theology

29:03 - Ed Stetzer and the Umpire Analogy

33:30 - Which Party is Better for the Pro-Life Movement?

43:40 - Phil's TwiXter on Watching Political Conventions as a Nonpartisan

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50:34 - Interview

53:22 - What Got Gary Burge Involved with the Middle East Conflict

1:00:46 - Genesis Chapter 12 and the Prosperity Gospel

1:08:28 - The Ancient Understanding of Land Ownership

1:18:22 - Orthodox Jews and Modern Israel

1:25:38 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in the News Segment:

Ed Stetzer on What's a Pro-Life Christian to Do in This Election:

https://churchleaders.com/voices/491672-whats-a-pro-life-christian-to-do-in-this-election.html

Tyler Huckabee on Why He's Not a Christian for Kamala:

https://religionnews.com/2024/08/14/why-im-a-christian-for-kamala-but-not-a-christian-for-kamala/

Other resources:

Whose Land? Whose Promise?: What Christians Are Not Being Told About Israel and the Palestinians by Gary Burge: https://a.co/d/aDwflA9

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We all hear stories of people walking away from faith because of cultural challenges and hypocrisy in the church. That's what makes Dave Gibbons' new memoir, "The Shape of My Eyes," so powerful. He joins Skye to talk about growing up within American fundamentalism as a mixed-race kid, and how he encountered God despite deep family trauma and church dysfunction. Also this week—Mike Erre joins the crew to talk about the ongoing fallout from Megan Basham's new book, David French's decision to endorse Kamala Harris, and the rise of the post-religious right. Plus, cannibal frog sermon illustrations.

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1:03 - Show Starts

3:41 - Theme Song

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10:07 - Frog Cannibalism Sermon Illustrators

14:56 - Phil Accused by Megan Basham of Being a Sellout

22:08 - Do the Facts Matter?

28:48 - Conflating Christianity and Republican Party Issues

34:57 - David French Voting for Harris??? And Mike the Anabaptist

46:09 - The Post-Religious Right

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54:28 - Interview

56:10 - Why Did Dave Gibbons Write "The Shape of My Eyes?"

1:02:32 - How Did His Trauma Impact His Faith?

1:10:44 - Encountering God

1:22:10 - On the Verge of Renaissance

1:25:53 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in the News Segment:

Cannibal Frogs:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/16/science/cannibal-female-frog.html

Phil's Article about Shepherds for Sale:

https://www.holypost.com/post/i-ve-read-basham-s-book-and-i-have-some-thoughts

David French on Why He's Voting for Harris:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/11/opinion/harris-trump-conservatives-abortion.html

Ross Douthat Tweet:

https://x.com/DouthatNYT/status/704462319074594816

Other resources:

The Shape of My Eyes: A Memoir of Race, Faith, and Finding Myself by Dave Gibbons: https://a.co/d/gKBmRja

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Donald Trump made headlines last week when he questioned Kamala Harris's racial identity. Phil, Skye, and Esau McCaulley discuss his comments and how the politics of division often cause us to categorize people into a single box. Then, should Christians embrace the spiritual uses of psychedelic drugs? Megan Basham's new book claims progressive powerbrokers have corrupted evangelical leaders with money, praise, and prestige, but many of her citations are being called into question. Which evangelical leaders are really being seduced by money? Then former Congressman, Adam Kinzinger, sits down with Skye to talk about the relationship between Christianity and the Republican Party, what comes after Trump, and the outsized role of fear in our politics

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1:40 - Show Starts

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8:36 - Esau's Article, "Turning Black"

14:08 - Race's Loaded Categories

21:55 - Psychedelics in Worship?

29:23 - Do We Try to Control God's Presence?

35:00 - Shepherds for Sale

50:45 - Conforming to Agenda

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56:55 - Interview

1:00:32 - When Did Kinzinger Decide to Stand Against Trump?

1:10:15 - How Powerful Political Fear Controls People

1:25:13 - The Religious Fervor Around Donald Trump

1:29:22 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in the News Segment:

On Turning Black:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/01/opinion/trump-harris-black-indian.html

Christian Psychedelic Festival:

https://religionnews.com/2024/07/16/at-a-progressive-christian-festival-in-the-woods-of-north-carolina-psychedelics-top-of-mind/

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David French joins to discuss J.D. Vance's comments about "childless sociopaths," pro-natalist government policy, the Olympics's Last Supper-esque display, and Robert Downey Jr. returning to the MCU. Are anti-immigration policies actually even "preserving our culture?" And why are fundamentalists so eager to consider themselves persecuted?

0:00 - Theme Song

0:17 - Episode Starts

2:36 - J. D. Vance's "Sociopathic Childless Cat Ladies"

6:31 - Having Children and Selfishness

12:48 - Making Personal Experiences Universal

25:00 - Government's Attempts at Pro-Natalism

29:55 - The Devaluation of Immigration

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38:56 - The Boredom of the Paris Olympics' Last Supper

42:54 - Does Our Peaceful Posture Affect the Discourse?

53:36 - Advice Skye Got About Criticism

1:09:27 - End Credits

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The opening ceremony of the Paris Olympics sparked outrage when drag queens assembled into a scene reminiscent of the Last Supper. Are Christians right to be offended? Oklahoma is requiring public schools to teach the Bible, but some teachers are resisting. Is this really about education or indoctrination? And Kaitlyn's latest article explains why this election is important, but maybe not an "existential threat." New Testament scholars, Esau McCaulley and Amy Peeler, discuss their new multi-ethnic Bible commentary "The New Testament in Color" and why we should read Scripture with friends from diverse backgrounds. Plus, a flip-flop fail in Death Valley.

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1:30 - Show Starts

2:50 - Theme Song

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6:10 - Flip Flops in Death Valley

8:58 - Olympic Drag Queen Last Supper

23:38 - Oklahoma Bible-Education Mandate

36:53 - France vs Oklahoma

42:31 - Why Turn Down the Rhetoric on Political Panic?

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50:05 - Interview

51:45 - Where Did "The New Testament in Color" Start?

1:00:38 - Will Cultures Continue into Heaven?

1:11:23 - Why Face Hard Questions?

1:18:48 - What Are the Biblical Reasons to Study How Cultures and Ethnicities Understand Things?

1:25:15 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in the News Segment:

Man Who Lost Flip Flops Death Valley Hospitalization Burned Feet:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2024/07/24/man-who-lost-flip-flops-death-valley-hospitalized-burned-feet/

Paris Olympics Organisers Apologize to Christians for Last Supper Parody:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/jul/28/paris-olympics-organisers-apologise-to-christians-for-last-supper-parody

Oklahoma Superintendent Vows to Force Schools to Teach Bible, Issuing Guidance:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/25/us/oklahoma-superintendent-school-bible-mandate.html

Kaitlyn's Article About Existential Political Rhetoric:

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2024/july-web-only/schiess-most-important-election-of-our-lifetime.html

Other resources:

The New Testament in Color: A Multiethnic Bible Commentary: https://www.ivpress.com/the-new-testament-in-color

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We're sharing a SKYEpod episode that was previously exclusively for Holy Post Plus subscribers—this one's a "SkyeDive," meaning it's just Skye digging deep into a topic. If you like this episode, consider becoming a Holy Post Plus subcriber to get weekly SKYEpod episodes, merchandise, bonus interviews, and more!

Skye talks about how our certainty often conflicts with humility—with disastrous results, like declining churchgoing rates, alien doomsday cults, and dead bellringers.

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Following the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, some are saying that God saved his life for a divine purpose. Phil, Kaitlyn, and Skye discuss the selective use of Christian rhetoric surrounding the former President. Then, multiple speakers at the Republican convention used anti-immigrant language associated with the "heritage Americans" movement. We examine the movement and its link to the isolationist and racist policies of the 1920s. And Skye welcome Rev. Dr. Munther Isaac, the pastor of the Evangelical Lutheran Christmas Church in Bethlehem, to talk about the Palestinian Christian community in the Holy Land and the impact of the war in Gaza on the church.

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0:36 - Intro

1:52 - Show Starts

3:14 - Theme Song

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5:54 - Update on Lisa Vischer

6:55 - RNC, Biden Dropout—The Apple Cart is Upset!

9:52 - Messianic Interpretations of the Trump Assassination Attempt

18:26 - What Events Do We Assume Are Divine Intervention?

25:50 - Why is Trump Still Winning?

31:45 - The Politically Unengaged, Patriotic, and Exhausted

37:00 - Heritage Americans

45:38 - Reputational Challenges Facing Harris

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51:50 - Interview

53:16 - The Christian Palestinian Community

1:04:47 - Palestinian Christian Reactions to October 7th

1:10:20 - The American Church's Effect on the War

1:16:52 - The Positive Impact of Palestinian Christians

1:22:47 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in the News Segment:

Kaitlyn's Appearance on NPR:

https://www.npr.org/2024/07/15/nx-s1-5040606/trumps-assassination-shooting-god-religion

Skye Jethani's Racism and Immigration Video:

https://youtu.be/cgfp5ngxqBI

Other resources:

The Other Side of the Wall: A Palestinian Christian Narrative of Lament and Hope: https://a.co/d/aFLu0I9

Christ at the Checkpoint

https://christatthecheckpoint.bethbc.edu/munthers-blog/

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On Saturday, Donald Trump narrowly survived an assassin's bullet. Will this begin to turn down the dehumanizing and apocalyptic rhetoric in our politics, or will it only add fuel for conspiracy theories and extremists? Rich Villodas is back to talk about his new book on the Sermon on the Mount—"The Narrow Path." He says obeying the sermon "is not how we achieve salvation; it's how we demonstrate it." And the fact that so few Christians seem to take Jesus' commands seriously calls their salvation into question. Also this week, Phil reports from "Med City" and Kaitlyn introduces us to Persian ice cream.

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1:49 - Show Starts

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6:10 - Phil's Adventure in Med City

10:40 - Club 33

15:33 - Where the Holy Post Crew Was When They Heard About Trump's Assassination Attempt

19:11 - The Aftermath of the Shooting

34:15 - Catastrophizing, Social Media, and Violence

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54:23 - Interview

58:55 - The Sermon on the Mount and Building House on Rock

53:57 - Why did Campbell write about Christian Nationalism?

1:04:06 - Moralism, Successism, and Individualism

1:08:03 - Does the American Church Lack Salvation?

1:16:53 - Prayer is the Secret to Walking the Narrow Path

1:28:05 - End Credits

Other resources:

The Narrow Path: How the Subversive Way of Jesus Satisfies Our Souls by Rich Villodas: https://a.co/d/6jhamVm

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It's one thing to fight against a heresy, but what about the people caught in its grasp? Caleb Campbell's new book, "Disarming Leviathan," argues Christian Nationalism is an idolatrous, anti-Christian movement, but that we ought to take a gentle, loving, and missional posture toward our friends and neighbors following it. Also this week, Ronald Reagan often said America was a shining "city upon a hill." Derwin Gray joins Skye and Kaitlyn to discuss the phrase, its original context in the Sermon on the Mount, and how Puritan colonists used it very differently than modern politicians. Plus, what's behind all of the hot A.I. images of Jesus?

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1:18 - Show Starts

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5:52 - Responding to Feedback on Debate Coverage

12:26 - Shining City on a Hill

19:42 - Guiding People Away from Idolatry

30:36 - Perfect Love Casts Out Fear

34:41 - Hot A.I. Jesus

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51:49 - Interview

53:57 - Why did Campbell write about Christian Nationalism?

1:15:15 - Practical Advice

1:23:53 - What About Flipping Tables?

1:33:14 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in the News Segment:

Is America a City on a Hill or a Nation on the Precipice?

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/02/opinion/american-exceptionalism-reagan-biden-trump.html

Hot AI Jesus is Huge on Facebook

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/06/hot-jesus-ai/678814/

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Disarming Leviathan: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor by Caleb Campbell: https://www.ivpress.com/disarming-leviathan

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In this special episode, Kaitlyn and Skye are joined by the co-hosts of the Church Politics podcast, Justin Giboney and Chris Butler, to discuss the fallout from last week's presidential debate. Will President Biden drop out? What does the Supreme Court's ruling about presidential immunity mean for a possible second Trump term? And why have both political parties nominated candidates who are demonstrably incapable of fulfilling the presidential oath of office? It's a wide-ranging conversation about the broken state of American politics and where Christians can find hope.

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1:08 - Intro

2:26 - Theme Song

2:47 - Show starts

4:35 - Recapping the Presidential Debate

10:00 - Fallout from Biden's Debate Performance

22:00 - Our Broken Political System

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42:41 - Predictions for the rest of the election season

1:05:10 - Trump Immunity Case Ruling

1:19:00 - End Credits

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