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CORRECTION - The initial audio file uploaded this morning was missing the last 10 minutes. If your phone automatically downloads the episode, remove the download and then redownload it, and that should take care of the issue. Sorry for the inconvenience! 607: Are you feeling disillusioned about your faith? About your church? You're definitely not alone. Creator of "The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill" podcast, Mike Cosper, is back to talk about his new book, "Land of My Sojourn," and how he came to embrace disillusionment as a gift. Also this week, Mike Erre joins Phil and Skye to discuss a new article trying to define and differentiate Christian Conservatism from Christian Nationalism. And they use these definitions to interpret Donald Trump's recent remarks to the National Religious Broadcasters. Plus, Italy is using DNA testing to catch canine public offenders.

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2:03 - Show Starts

3:20 - Theme Song

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6:09 - Sam the Eagle

7:46 - Announcement

10:50 - News of the Butt - Dog Poop DNA Test

18:06 - Christian Nationalism vs Christian Conservatism

35:34 - Conservative, Nationalist, or Blasphemous Game Show

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59:47 - Interview

1:01:51 - Land of my Sojourn

1:08:08 - Why do we stay in denial?

1:17:54 - Seminary Preacher's Sons

1:22:58 - Who Does Church Planting Draw?

1:37:43 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in the News Segment:

Christian Conservatism vs. Christian Nationalism

https://www.christianpost.com/voices/christian-conservatism-versus-christian-nationalism.html

Trump Revival of Christian Power Speech

https://religionnews.com/2024/02/23/trump-promises-a-revival-of-christian-power-in-speech-to-national-religious-broadcasters/

Other resources:

Land of my Sojourn: The Landscape of a Faith Lost and Found: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0830847340?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_VPPGWKCP3PD145XKHRPK

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Last week the Alabama Supreme Court ruled that frozen embryos created for in-vitro fertilization have the legal status of children, essentially ending all IVF treatments in the state. Some are applauding the ruling as both a morally and theologically consistent affirmation of human life. But others, including some Christians, are saying the pro-life movement is taking things too far. Then, how do we teach kids the core doctrines of the Christian faith when most adults in our churches don't know them either? Kaitlyn interviews the creators of a new series of children's books designed to catechize both kids and their parents. Also this week, a new survey suggests Christian Nationalism is in decline, but we think the data is hot garbage.

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2:13- Show Starts

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6:25 - Jesus and Candy

8:42 - Alabama IVF Law

35:27 - Poorly Phrased Christian Nationalism Survey

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51:05 - Interview with Todd Hains & Natasha Kennedy

54:06 - Importance of Catechesis

56:51 - Getting it Published at Lexam

1:03:22 - Not Dumbing it Down

1:08:11 - The Approach to the Illustrations

1:27:07 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in the News Segment:

Ryan Burge Article

https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/has-christian-nationalism-intensified

Christianity Today Article

https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2024/february/alabama-embryos-ivf-frozen-storage-pro-life-ruling-protecti.html

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David and Skye discuss the upcoming primary election—if most people agree that Biden is too old to hold office, why hasn't he stepped down? Would a different vice president give voters more confidence? Pastors, doctors, and politicians are routinely threatened with physical violence by MAGA—is this our fault for not standing up publicly against this behavior?

0:00 - Theme Song

0:18 - Episode Starts

0:40 - Biden's Age

11:14 - Ezra Klein Suggests Democrats Leave Biden

21:33 - Is It Too Risky to Drop Biden?

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32:53 - Trump's Dedicated Base

37:52 - MAGA's Violent Threats

44:02 - Silence Permits MAGA Violence

52:33 - Republicans and Career Self-Preservation

57:12 - Local Churches Need Courage

1:06:35 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in Episode

Democrats Have a Better Option Than Biden

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/opinion/ezra-klein-biden-audio-essay.html

MAGA's Violent Threats Are Warping Life in America

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/opinion/magas-violent-threats-are-warping-life-in-america.html

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A new book argues that the rise and decline of the Contemporary Christian Music industry helps explain the political idolatry of many Christians, and Karen Swallow Prior says the biblical manhood industry is a scam. These stories lead Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn to discuss whether American evangelicalism is defined more by consumer markets than by theology. Angie Weszely, the CEO of ProGrace, is back to talk about how the church can actually create a culture of life after the overturning of Roe. She says we need to stop seeing abortion as primarily a political and legal issue, and instead recognize that it's also a pastoral, practical, and emotional one. Also this week, why does Tucker love Russia? And Trumpers 'n sneakers.

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1:10 - Intro

2:53 - Show Starts

3:49 - Theme Song

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5:29 - Skye's Theory on Tucker Carlson

10:06 - Trump's Snazzy Gold Sneakers

13:09 - CCM as a Reflection of American Christianity

43:49 - Biblical Manhood Industrial

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57:10 - Interview

59:25 - Why "Should it be Legal" Isn't Enough

1:07:58 - Ending vs. Banning Abortion

1:12:57 - Communicating without Shaming

1:19:04 - The Power of Grace

1:29:32 - End Credits

Links mentioned in news segment:

How Contemporary Christian Music Explains American Christianity

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2024/february-web-only/contemporary-christian-music-ccm-russell-moore-american.html

The 'Biblical Manhood' Industry is a Scam

https://religionnews.com/2024/02/15/the-biblical-manhood-industry-is-a-scam/

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The "He Gets Us" campaign ran a Super Bowl ad showing culture war combatants washing each other's feet. It has conservative Christians upset and non-Christians confused. Phil, Kaitlyn, and Skye react to the ad and unpack the many ways we misunderstand the meaning of Jesus washing his disciples' feet. Then, New Testament professor Nijay Gupta is back to discuss his new book "Strange Religion" about what made early Christianity so weird and compelling. He explains what Roman religion looked like before Christianity, and how those pagan values and practices are returning. Plus, Chinese spy pigeons and swearing parrots.

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5:02 - Skye and U2 in Las Vegas

10:27 - Foul-Mouthed Fowls

16:50 - Spies in Disguise as Pigeons

21:40 - Foot-Washing Superbowl Ad

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49:16 - Interview

51:38 - Strange Religion

1:05:31 - What was Roman religion like?

1:13:40 - Modern Pagan Christianity

1:32:15 - End Credits

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Well, here we are again. The very same arguments that were rolled out by MAGA Christian leaders to justify supporting Donald Trump in 2016 and 2020 are back again in 2024. A new article in the Christian Post says America's survival depends on Christians voting for Trump. Why do these fear tactics still work? Then, it's true that all politicians lie, but PolitiFacts says Trump is a league of his own. And scientists explain why negative polarization in our politics may have evolutionary origins.

Then Skye interviews pastor and author, Brian Zahnd, about his new book, "The Wood Between the Worlds: A Poetic Theology of the Cross." He draws from art, literature, movies, and music to help us see the many facets of what Jesus really accomplished on that old rugged cross. Also this week, an early church father liked big couches and he cannot lie.

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1:46 - Show Starts

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5:27 - Recapping the Liveshow

8:05 - News of the Butt

11:54 - Trump the Unreliable Watchman

28:18 - The Roots of Polarization

38:24 - Fatalism in America

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50:35 - Interview with Brian Zahnd

53:41 - Brian Zahnd's Background

58:53 - America as a Religion

1:04:50 - Poetic Theology of the Cross

1:15:50 - The Paganization of the Cross

1:31:20 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment

With Desantis Out, Can a Christian Support Donald Trump?

https://www.christianpost.com/voices/with-desantis-out-can-a-christian-support-donald-trump.html

What Politifact Learned in 1,000 Fact Checks of Donald Trump

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politifact/2024/02/01/what-politifact-learned-in-1000-fact-checks-of-donald-trump/

Science is Revealing Why American Politics Are So Insanely Polarized

https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2024/01/20/polarization-science-evolution-psychology/

America's Lack of Faith in Our Collective Power is a Bigger Problem Than Trump

https://religionnews.com/2024/01/26/americas-lack-of-faith-in-our-collective-power-is-a-bigger-problem-than-trump/

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The Wood Between the Worlds: A Poetic Theology of the Cross https://a.co/d/4reF5UX

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A new documentary hits theaters on February 16 about Christian Nationalism called God and Country. It features Phil and Skye, and many other Holy Post contributors. The executive producer of the movie is legendary actor, producer, and director, Rob Reiner, who's created classics like The Princess Bride, When Harry Met Sally, and A Few Good Men. Reiner is a well-known supporter of progressive political and cultural causes and he's not a Christian, which has triggered an avalanche of criticism from conservatives against those featured in the film. In this episode, Phil talks to Rob Reiner and Dan Partland, the director of God and Country, about why they made the movie, why they affirm Christians who are politically engaged but criticize Christian Nationalism, and what they hope the documentary accomplishes. Skye and Kaitlyn then join Phil to debrief the interview.

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1:38 - Show Starts

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7:05 - Prefacing the Interview

9:55 - The Interview Begins

13:42 - How the God & Country Documentary Came To Be

27:05 - Faith and Voting

31:40 - What is Christian Nationalism?

37:43 - The First Culture War Show

46:00 - Who Decides What Counts as Progress?

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58:52 - Debrief Begins

1:32:15 - End Credits

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Lately, there's been lots of talk about diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI)—sometimes as a virtuous initiative and sometimes as a boogeyman. Even Elon Musk weighed in, presenting it as a threat to our safety. Is this just another baseless moral panic? What are the potential pitfalls of DEI? David French joins Skye Jethani to discuss the issue. Plus, David French introduces, "The After Party," a new curriculum to help Christians engage politics in a more thoughtful, humble, and hospitable way.

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0:18 - Show Starts

0:32 - D.E.I.

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38:50 - The After Party

1:01:48 - End Credits

Other Resources:

This is the Actual Danger Posed by D.E.I. -

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/14/opinion/dei-diversity-unconstitutional.html

The After Party -

https://redeemingbabel.org/the-after-party/

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Evangelical voters have long supported Republican candidates, but who identifies as an evangelical Christian has changed over the years. A recent article written in The New York Times by Ruth Graham and Charles Homans argues that Trump is attracting a different kind of evangelical - one who loves their country and believes in God, but doesn't actually go to church. Katelyn Beaty joins Phil and Kaitlyn to discuss the trend and why they aren't as concerned this election cycle as previous ones. Then, Kaitlyn sits down with Michael Wear to discuss his new book, The Spirit of Our Politics: Spiritual Formation and the Renovation of Public Life. He explains how he uses the teachings of Dallas Willard to talk about how Christians should engage in politics and what it would look like to place our politics under our spiritual formation. Also this week, an Alabama man gets stuck in a vase.

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1:37 - Show Starts

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4:54 - Man Stuck in Urn

11:29 - New Year's at Applebee's

13:44 - Prince William Told to Abdicate

18:54 - Trump Attracting Unchurched Evangelicals

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54:58 - Interview with Michael Wear

1:33:41 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in the News Segment:

Alabama Man Stuck in Decorative Urn Breaks His Silence: https://www.thedailybeast.com/alabama-man-connor-padgett-stuck-in-decorative-urn-breaks-his-silence

Prince William Told to Back Christianity or Abdicate: https://www.newsweek.com/prince-william-church-england-abdicate-1861430

Trump Is Connecting With a Different Type of Evangelical Voter: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/08/us/politics/donald-trump-evangelicals-iowa.html

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The Spirit of Our Politics: Spiritual Formation and the Renovation of Public Life. https://amzn.to/4b9ka3f

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It's been nearly a decade since Donald Trump descended on his golden escalator and turned conventional wisdom about evangelical political values upside-down. Bonnie Kristian has a new article arguing that the only one's still fighting about whether or not to support him are the "evangelical elites," but for average evangelicals the debate about Trump is over. John Mark Comer is back to discuss his new book, "Practicing the Way." He talks with Skye about the high cost of non-discipleship, and the unique ways ministry can malform a young pastor's soul. Plus, scientists in the UK discover that most people can talk chicken.

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6:30 - Chicken Talk

18:53 - The Trump Debate is Dead

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51:46 - Interview with John Mark Comer

1:26:10 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in the News Segment:

The Trump Debate Is Dead

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2024/january-web-only/trump-debate-is-dead-evangelicals.html

Other resources:

Practicing the Way: Be with Jesus. Become like him. Do as he did. By John Mark Comer

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