The Imaginal Podcast

As it turns out, shame wounds are so relatable - so normal. And underneath the discomfort often lies something so incredibly, if not fiercely, sweet.

And oftentimes, sharing them in safe spaces can disempower the wrongful messaging as well as bond us more deeply in our friendships or relationships.

This episode is a quick add-on to last week's episode. I thought it would be worth it to go just one layer deeper, so that maybe we can all bring some healing to our "shame" wounds.

This process may carry some grief or tap into old memories, so approaching with compassion and reverence would be very important.

My hope is that this episode can allow us to see the sweetness of the human spirit - in ourselves and in each other. And that the normalizing and seeing the sweetness of these wounds can allow us to bring healing and catalyze the freer expression of our lives.


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Why do our passions, or the things we love the most, sometimes turn into a place of drudgery or dread? Actually, there might likely be something beautiful or valuable underneath it all that is being protected. 

I decided that the most illustrative way to talk about this concept would be to tap into my vulnerability and share my own experiences. 

This episode is the follow-up to last week’s episode: “Do Your Passions Ever Feel Heavy?"

In that episode, I invited you to query: 

• Where in your life do the things you want to do feel heavy? 
• Do you ever dread the things you love the most? 
• Do you ever feel unable to start the projects that you really care about? 

Feelings of resistance and heaviness are so common. In fact, you can get so accustomed to it, that you may forget to question whether or not things could change. 

Today, we talk about the sweetness and the vulnerabilities that might be lying underneath these nebulously heavy feelings. It's likely that we wouldn't create resistances unless there was a reason. 

Once you are able to understand these places, you can also then reconcile and/or heal and move through them. 

This can not only be a beautiful process but can also then catalyze a much freer pursuit of your passions as well as a more enjoyable life. 

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Sometimes we can dread, delay, or never start the things that we love the most. Why is it that some of the things that you are passionate about can feel so heavy sometimes?

What are the things in your life that feel heavy? Perhaps you feel like you're walking through mud while you're doing it. Or perhaps it leaves you in a guilty stupor of delay.

Funnily, we can go for years, and even a lifetime, not realizing that we're continually battling these cycles of heaviness. It's possible that you've grown quite accustomed to carrying it around.

It can also be confounding because these are the spaces that you'd think would feel free and imaginative and fun.

What if this changed? If you felt freer and things were more enjoyable?

As it turns out, there are probably some really good reasons for this heaviness.

And it is definitely possible to change these associations.

Just a reminder that it's so important to come in kindly to these spaces.

Next week, we will follow up with how to get underneath these things and separate ourselves from this kind of weight.

It's possible that the way we experience life could change quite a bit with a mindful and compassionate tending of these places.


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Sometimes the opportunity to create change or form friendships is closer than we think.

Raphaela Browne is back today, and together  we ask you to consider how belonging to a community could potentially change things for you.

Our conversations span all the emotions as we reflect on how belonging to a community has changed both of us - as well as given us our friendship.

We are sending you our warmest wishes and belief.


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Links in this episode:

• Jo Casey: https://www.jocasey.com
• The Wiz
• Better Together by Jack Johnson

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I am continually mesmerized by the beauty of the human spirit and how easily we can miss it amidst our busyness or our routines.

Today's query heralds from an irrevocable life lesson that I learned from a bunch of teenagers. What would happen if we asked more kindly curious questions of each other?

We could go lifetimes not knowing some of the truest parts of one another and could really miss out on the brilliancy and beauty of deeper connection.

I hope this lesson finds us all more amazed and more deeply connected with everyone from our closest loved ones to the strangers whom we walk past.


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Today's conversation with Steven B. Paige is a gorgeous one - we discuss loss and the beauty of life.

This is the third in our trio of episodes about goals, and it is an authentic overlay of what it means to live in a world of complexities. 

We find ourselves talking with candor as we share what it means to live meaningfully - honoring the people and things we've lost while finding beauty in the human experience. 

I think you will be touched by Steven's stories. At the same time, we are also safeguarding your stories as we talk together. 


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Links mentioned in this episode: 

• The Wild Edge of Sorrow by Francis Weller
• Episode 29: Deepening Your Relationship With Music with Steven B. Paige

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Once you start down the path of pursuing a goal, you never know what obstacles or choices may come your way. Today we discuss the complexities of finding enjoyment, maintaining balance, and understanding your purpose - even amidst what may look like obstacles.

Steven B. Paige is back as a guest co-host! He continues his story from last week about his pursuit of a Masters in Business Administration.  Using this landscape, he drops so many wonderful gems.

As you ponder your choices and your paths, you have are true support and companionship.


Steven B. Paige, MBA, the founder of Delta Hollywood Productions (DHP) LLC is an Analyst Manager Consultant who specializes in project management, business consulting, and event planning and management.  He has experience enhancing his client’s operations, data management, and productivity to increase profitability.  Steven is also fluent in the languages of accounting, audiovisual planning, business, and information technology, offering his clients a full range of options for their business needs.

Steven has had career in a variety of companies including four Fortune 500 companies (The Walt Disney Company, Washington Mutual now Chase, Toyota, and United Health Group).  From the different industries and various positions, Steven brings those experiences to DHP to help clients improve their enterprises.  Steven has a Bachelor of Arts in Economics from California State University Long Beach and an MBA from the Kogod School of Business at The American University in Washington, D.C.  Steven enjoys alpine skiing, yoga, swimming, sailing, golf, and crossfit.  Steven relaxes with jazz and reading.


Ways to Connect with Steven B. Paige (he/him): 

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• Website: https://sbpaige007.wordpress.com/

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Links mentioned in this episode: 

• Trading Places (the movie)

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Whether circumstance, old stories, perceived limitations, former criticism or something else, sometimes you may feel that your goal is out of reach. This scenario is so relatable - but also navigable!

Today Steven B. Paige (his interview is episode 29) is back as a guest co-host! He shares how he found his way through obstacles to accomplish his goal of getting a Masters in Business Administration.

One reason that we share specific stories on the podcast is because we often may find ourselves in each other.

So whether your goal is related to school or something completely different, the things that we run into as humans often have a sympathizable sameness.

You have our belief and our camaraderie.


Steven B. Paige, MBA, the founder of Delta Hollywood Productions (DHP) LLC is an Analyst Manager Consultant who specializes in project management, business consulting, and event planning and management.  He has experience enhancing his client’s operations, data management, and productivity to increase profitability.  Steven is also fluent in the languages of accounting, audiovisual planning, business, and information technology, offering his clients a full range of options for their business needs.

Steven has had career in a variety of companies including four Fortune 500 companies (The Walt Disney Company, Washington Mutual now Chase, Toyota, and United Health Group).  From the different industries and various positions, Steven brings those experiences to DHP to help clients improve their enterprises.  Steven has a Bachelor of Arts in Economics from California State University Long Beach and an MBA from the Kogod School of Business at The American University in Washington, D.C.  Steven enjoys alpine skiing, yoga, swimming, sailing, golf, and crossfit.  Steven relaxes with jazz and reading.


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Today I have the most special guest co-host - someone whom I've dreamt of having on the podcast for a long time.

Krizell Sullano was my nurse at the UCLA medical center when I had a life-saving liver surgery in 2012.

Krizell is one of the most beautiful people I know, and she has impacted my life immeasurably. Today we talk candidly, honestly, musingly and emotionally about how sharing a deep connection with someone can change you forever.

I am beyond my ability to thank Krizell. She has been a true healer in my life - physically, emotionally and spiritually.

I wonder if you could join me this week in reaching out with gratitude to those in our lives who have made that kind of soul impact on us. Along with that, a deep bow of appreciation goes out to all of the nurses and healthcare workers. They are the truest of heroes.

Krizell Sullano is a registered nurse and cooking fanatic, (check out her Instagram @krizkitch for recipes and therapeutic videos) who thrives on connection. Krizell founded Everyday Women and used to host events with guest speakers and workshops for self love and connection in real life.

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Amidst a very difficult world landscape, along with the accrued challenges of these last years, it seems all the more vital to come in with more kindness.

Today's episode has been on my heart for a long time. In a sense, these ideas would be a cornerstone to any of the other concepts we talk about.

I hope today allows you to identify the unnecessary pressures you may be carrying and  to consider ways that we can be even kinder to ourselves (as well as to each other, of course).

I'm sending you my heart full of support and well wishes.

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