The Innovation Show

The Innovation Show

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The Innovation Show episodes

  • From VUCA to BANI, The BANI Framework - Jamais Cascio

    In this episode, we delve into the fascinating BANI framework with its creator, Jamais Cascio. BANI (Brittle, Anxious, Nonlinear, and Incomprehensible) offers a new lens to understand modern disruptions, evolving from the older VUCA model. Jamais Cascio shares insights from his extensive background in futures and foresight work, including his tenure at the Institute for the Future. We explore the shortcomings of VUCA in today's world, the essence of BANI, and strategies to build resilience, empathy, improvisation, and inclusivity to navigate the complexities of the upcoming decades. This episode is a must-watch for anyone interested in innovation, business strategy, and better thinking to cope with an uncertain future.

    00:00 Introduction to VUCA and BANI

    01:18 Meet Jamais Cascio: Creator of the BANI Framework

    04:52 Exploring VUCA: Volatility, Uncertainty, Complexity, Ambiguity

    11:48 The Rise of BANI: Brittleness, Anxiety, Nonlinearity, Incomprehensibility

    24:26 Positive BANI: Resilience, Empathy, Improvisation, Inclusiveness

    30:34 Conclusion and Future Directions

    Find Jamais here and BANI here:

    https://medium.com/@cascio

    35 min
  • Erich Kruschitz - Navigating Corporate Exploration

    In this episode of the Corporate Explorer series, we dive deep into managing innovation within large corporations with Erich Kruschitz, CEO of Mavie Next.

    Erich shares detailed insights from his journey transforming UNIQA's exploratory unit into a successful growth engine.

    We explore the challenges of building and managing a team for innovation, the importance of clearly defined goals and organisational support, and the nuances of handling acquisitions and integrating diverse company cultures.

    Key topics include the concept of ambidexterity, the characteristics necessary for a corporate explorer, and the importance of rituals in celebrating and learning from failures. This episode is packed with valuable lessons for anyone involved in corporate strategy and innovation.

    00:00 Introduction to Corporate Exploration

    00:34 Sponsor Acknowledgment: Wazoku

    01:12 Guest Introduction: Erich Kruschitz

    01:58 Erich's Journey and Background

    02:28 Building a Team for Exploration

    04:22 UNIQA's Strategic Shift to Healthcare

    11:08 Defining the Purpose and Scope

    19:00 Challenges in Team Building

    30:32 Acquisitions and Their Impact

    37:51 Celebrating Failures and Learning

    41:34 Conclusion and Contact Information

    Find Erich here:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/erich-kruschitz/

    Erich Kruschitz, Aidan McCullen, UNIQA, Mavie Next, SanusX, Wazoku, Corporate Explorer, innovation, ambidexterity, healthcare, insurance, leadership, startups, entrepreneurs, asset management, risk management, finance, telemedicine, employee health, elderly care

    44 min
  • William 'Bill' Damon - Crafting Purpose and Resilience

    William 'Bill' Damon - Crafting Purpose and Resilience

    In this episode, we dive deep with William 'Bill' Damon, America's leading expert on adolescence and author of 'The Path to Purpose'. Bill discusses techniques for instilling purpose and fulfilment in today's youth.

    We explore his extensive research, including collaborative studies with Howard Gardner and Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi on ethical and successful work.

    Bill reveals how his focus on purpose spans across various fields, such as family life, education, and business, highlighting the importance of personal responsibility in different contexts. He also shares his personal journey, reflecting on his relationship with his father and how it has influenced his life's purpose.

    This episode is packed with insights for parents, mentors, educators, and anyone interested in understanding and cultivating purpose in life and work.

    00:00 Introduction to William Damon and His Work

    01:18 The Concept of Purpose in Professional Life

    04:32 Exploring Purpose in Everyday Life

    07:42 Purpose in Family Businesses

    13:00 Personal Journey: Discovering My Father's Legacy

    21:27 The Importance of Purpose and Overcoming Challenges

    27:09 Evolution of Thoughts on Child Development

    35:20 Exploring the Concept of Purpose

    36:21 The Role of Sports in Developing Purpose

    37:30 Purpose Beyond Sports: Education and Life Lessons

    40:33 The Power of Purpose in Everyday Jobs

    47:35 Finding Purpose in Various Life Domains

    53:04 Categories of Purposeful Individuals

    57:12 Challenges and Missteps in Finding Purpose

    01:05:39 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    The Path to Purpose, William Damon, Aidan McCullen, adolescence, sense of purpose, family businesses, youth fulfilment, moral development, greater expectations, good work, purpose in life, Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, Howard Gardner, The Path to Purpose,

    A Round of Golf With My Father, Good Work, The Moral Child, Greater Expectations,

    The Purpose Driven Life, adolescent psychology, life review process, resilience, family enterprises, purpose and commitment, civic purpose, purposeful living

    1 hr 9 min
  • Kim, Erin and Jonathan Clark - Leading Through

    Kim, Erin and Jonathan Clark - Leading Through: The New Paradigm of Leadership: Soul, Heart, and Mind

    In this episode, we delve into a profound moment of opportunity in human history, examining how organisations can harness leadership to help people and communities thrive. The discussion centres on the new book, 'Leading Through: Activating the Soul, Heart, and Mind of Leadership,' authored by Kim, Jonathan, and Erin Clark. The Clarks share their experiences from diverse fields to propose a shift from the outdated power-over paradigm to a more human-centric, flexible, and adaptive way of leading. Topics covered include the challenges and potential of the new paradigm, real-life examples from the authors' professional journeys, and the enduring need for empathetic leadership even in the face of daunting organisational inertia.

    00:00 Introduction to a New Leadership Paradigm

    00:54 Meet the Authors: Kim, Jonathan, and Erin Clark

    02:12 Erin's Journey: From Accidental Consultant to Leadership Expert

    04:52 John's Insights: Organisational Performance and Leadership

    08:01 Kim's Experience: The Power Over Paradigm in Action

    15:23 The Pathway Program: Transforming Higher Education

    18:34 John's Challenge: Changing Department Dynamics

    22:55 The Power Over Paradigm: Real-World Examples

    29:32 Erin's Client Experience: Unity and Freedom in Leadership

    32:09 The Power of Collaboration and Humanity

    33:43 Breaking Free from Organisational Dynamics

    35:06 The Courage to Embrace a New Paradigm

    38:16 Generative AI and the Value of Humanity

    46:21 The Amazon Case Study: A Cautionary Tale

    50:31 Modularity: Balancing Freedom and Unity

    56:14 Empathetic Leadership and Difficult Decisions

    01:01:22 The Vision of Leading Through

    01:03:36 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    Book Website and how to get a preview:

    https://www.leadingthrough.co

    Book links:

    https://linktr.ee/leadingthrough

    Find Aidan here for Keynotes, Event MC and Custom L&D Programmes.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/aidanmccullen/

    Leadership, Organizational Transformation, Kim Clark, Jonathan Clark, Erin Clark, Leading Through, Power Over Paradigm, Business Strategy, New Paradigm, Employee Empowerment, Workplace Culture, Organizational Change, Management Consulting, Innovation, Bureaucracy, Harvard Business School, Modularity, Employee Engagement, Human Potential, Professional Development

    1 hr 5 min
  • Innovating Corporate KPIs - Ellie Amirnasr and Charles Vaillant

    Ellie Charles Mann Hummel

    Innovating Corporate KPIs - Ellie Amirnasr and Charles Vaillant

    Driving Progress with Mann+Hummel's Hunter Strategy

    In this episode of the Corporate Explorer series, we dive into innovative business practices with Mann+Hummel's CTO/CDO Charles Vaillant and Digital Ventures Manager Ellie Amirnasr. The guests discuss the pitfalls of applying traditional KPIs too early in new business ventures and advocate for non-financial progress metrics. They introduce the 'Hunter Strategy' for pursuing business validation and scaling within exploration-type projects. The conversation covers how to manage resource allocation efficiently, the evolution of their innovation framework, and essential advice for corporate explorers. This episode is sponsored by Wazoku, a leader in creating sustainable innovation ecosystems.

    00:00 Introduction to Business Innovation

    01:10 Sponsor Acknowledgment

    01:49 Meet the Guests: Ellie Amirnasr and Charles Vaillant

    02:54 Understanding Mann and Hummel

    04:56 Challenges with Traditional Metrics

    10:54 Hunter Strategy Explained

    17:21 Implementing Effective Metrics

    23:59 Resource Allocation in R&D

    30:18 Advice for Corporate Explorers

    34:47 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    Business Innovation, KPIs, Venture Management, Non-Financial KPIs, Innovation Ecosystems, Corporate Exploration, Growth Validation, Hunter Strategy, Mann and Hummel, Wazoku, Aidan McCullen, Ellie Amirnasr, Charles Vaillaint, Corporate R&D, Digital Ventures, Strategic Metrics, Innovative Processes, Resource Allocation, R&D Investments, Corporate Transformation

    Find Charles: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chvaillant/

    Find Ellie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellie-amirnasr/

    Find Aidan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aidanmccullen/

    36 min
  • Carol Tavris - Mistakes Were Made But Not By Me

    Carol Tavris - Mistakes Were Made But Not By Me

    The Psychology of Self-Justification with Carol Tavris

    In this episode, Aidan McCullen interviews Carol Tavris, co-author of 'Mistakes Were Made (But Not by Me),' to explore the intricacies of cognitive dissonance, self-justification, and memory. They investigate why humans find it difficult to admit mistakes, even in the presence of irrefutable evidence. Through numerous case studies and real-world examples, they discuss the implications of these psychological mechanisms in areas as varied as personal life, law enforcement, and political decision-making. The conversation tackles how these insights can apply to everyone from parents and judges to business leaders and law enforcement, emphasizing the significance of humility, critical thinking, and the human tendency to rewrite personal histories to fit current beliefs.

    00:00 Introduction to Self-Justification

    01:14 Welcoming the Author: Carol Tavris

    02:17 The Premise of the Book

    03:06 Understanding Cognitive Dissonance

    08:44 Memory and Self-Justification

    14:43 Confabulations and False Memories

    23:02 The Pyramid of Choice

    32:42 Law Enforcement and Wrongful Convictions

    37:58 The Importance of Correcting Interrogation Methods

    38:33 The Impact of Miscarriages of Justice

    38:55 Examples of Recognizing Mistakes

    39:52 The 1980s and 90s Hysteria Over Child Abuse

    40:21 The McMartin Daycare Scandal

    41:06 Flawed Child Interrogation Techniques

    42:58 A Case of Misunderstanding: Daddy's Pee Pee

    44:53 The Emotional Toll of False Convictions

    47:39 The Pyramid of Entrapment and Justification

    48:48 The Influence of Bias in Decision Making

    50:32 The Role of Pharmaceutical Companies in Medicine

    52:06 Moral Choices and Life Decisions

    54:55 Understanding and Living with Cognitive Dissonance

    01:03:17 The Power of Admitting Mistakes

    01:06:58 The Allure of Victim Narratives

    01:08:40 Alien Abductions and Hypnagogic States

    01:14:17 The Importance of Understanding Human Frailties

    Find Carol here:

    https://tavris.socialpsychology.org

    That Sarah Silverman interview:

    https://youtu.be/FUKdUk_QxAA?si=2kUbf2QCKD08wyaP

    Carol's books:

    https://tavris.socialpsychology.org/publications

    psychology, cognitive dissonance, self-justification, memory, mistakes, humility, ethics, law enforcement, interrogation, wrongful convictions, trauma, alien abductions, confirmation bias, leadership, decision making, self-concept, Carol Tavris (author), Aidan McCullen (host), Elliot Aronson (co-author), Leon Festinger (researcher on cognitive dissonance), James Thurber (author of The Wonderful O), Richard Feynman (scientist and quote source), Mary Carr (memoirist), Joseph Allen (wrongfully convicted), Ronald Reagan (Bitburg cemetery incident), Shimon Peres (comment on Reagan's mistake), Sarah Silverman (Louis C.K. controversy), Louis C.K. (comedian involved in controversy), Jeffrey Cohen (research on political bias), Lee Ross (naive realism), John Mack (psychiatrist on alien abductions), Susan Clancy (researcher on alien abductions), Rich McNally (memory scientist), Antonin Scalia (Supreme Court Justice), Clarence Thomas (Supreme Court Justice), Auburn Blooming (oncologist and co-author)

    1 hr 16 min
  • David Rogers - The Digital Transformation Roadmap Part 2

    David Rogers - The Digital Transformation Roadmap Part 2

    Mastering Digital Transformation: Insights from David Rogers

    In this engaging episode, Aidan sits down with David Rogers, the author of 'The Digital Transformation Roadmap'. They delve into the significant challenges and strategies for digital transformation within organisations. Key topics include overcoming psychological and organisational debt, technical capabilities required for transformation, the importance of suitable technology, retaining key talent, and evolving organisational culture. David also shares insights on governance and iterative funding, emphasising the need for smart shutdowns and resource allocation. The episode is packed with practical examples, including successful digital transformations at Walmart and Netflix. David's profound experience and practical tools make this essential listening for business leaders and innovators.

    00:00 Introduction and Welcome

    00:13 Understanding Organisational and Technical Debt

    02:18 The Importance of Tech Capabilities

    03:29 Talent and Culture in Digital Transformation

    05:19 Governance in Digital Transformation

    08:27 The Role of Teams and Boards

    20:00 Smart Shutdowns and Innovation Governance

    26:07 The Corporate Innovation Stack

    29:34 The Broken Model of Innovation

    30:02 Governance Model for Innovation

    30:42 Path Three Innovations: Challenges and Management

    32:15 Innovation Structures and Strategies

    34:12 Skipping Vision and Priorities

    35:07 Walmart's Strategic Innovation in Online Grocery

    41:24 Four Stages of Validation

    49:21 Case Studies: Netflix and Diapers.com

    54:37 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    Find David here: https://davidrogers.digital

    Find Aidan McCullen for Keynotes and Corporate Workshops here:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/aidanmccullen/

    David Rogers, Aidan McCullen, Digital Transformation, Innovation Governance, Iterative Funding, Corporate Innovation, Organizational Change, Innovation Strategy, Technical Debt, Psychological Debt, Innovation Boards, Startup Culture, Agile Methodology, Product Validation, Strategic Priorities, Business Validation, Smart Shutdowns, Innovation Stack, Customer Validation, Executive Insights

    57 min
  • David L. Rogers - The Digital Transformation Roadmap Part 1

    Unlocking Successful Digital Transformation: Insights from David L. Rogers

    In this episode, David L. Rogers, author of 'The Digital Transformation Roadmap' and 'The Digital Transformation Playbook,' joins Aidan to discuss the critical steps and challenges businesses face in their journey towards digital transformation. Rogers emphasises the importance of transforming not just products and business models but the organisation itself.

    He outlines five major barriers to success: vision, priorities, experimentation, governance, and capabilities.

    Through insightful case studies such as the New York Times and CNN+, Rogers illustrates the pitfalls and successful strategies for driving meaningful innovation.

    Additionally, he highlights the need for iterative funding and continuous adaptation in the face of uncertainty. This episode is packed with practical advice and lessons drawn from two decades of research and real-world examples, aimed at helping leaders navigate and thrive in the digital age.

    00:00 Introduction to Digital Transformation

    00:57 Meet the Author: David L. Rogers

    01:47 The Evolution of Digital Transformation

    02:36 Challenges and Misconceptions

    07:48 Defining Digital Transformation

    09:56 Barriers to Success

    22:26 Case Study: The New York Times

    31:33 Setting Realistic Expectations for Change

    32:21 Defining a Clear Vision for Change

    34:03 Empathy and Resistance to Change

    34:53 Challenges of Corporate Innovation

    36:15 Addressing Uncertainty in Innovation

    39:27 Paths to Innovation and Growth

    41:41 Case Study: The Failure of CNN Plus

    49:55 Iterative Funding and the Facebook Example

    54:44 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    Find David here:

    Substack: http://davidrogersdigital.substack.com

    Website: https://davidrogers.digital

    The Missing Link Between Strategy and Innovation article David mentioned:

    https://hbr.org/2024/03/the-missing-link-between-strategy-and-innovation

    The episode we mentioned with Steve Blank:

    The Startup Owner's Manual: The Step-By-Step Guide for Building a Great Company

    https://youtu.be/JbPRE2oCjnY?si=S0ULzjFLdnsU-1Ix

    Aidan McCullen, David Rogers, digital transformation roadmap, digital transformation playbook, corporate governance, iterative experimentation, Facebook, CNN Plus, startup funding, media industry, New York Times, Steve Blank, Bob Dorf, Rita McGrath, Stefan Tompkin, Peter Thiel, Jason Keillar, Jeff Zucker

    57 min
  • Business Experiments with Sarah Spoto and Vincent Ducret

    In the latest episode of the Corporate Explorer series, brought to you by Wazoku, we discuss the importance of balancing personal instincts with data and evidence in business decisions. Guests, Product Marketing Manager for Electric Vehicles & Customer Experience with Cadillac, Sarah Spoto and Vincent Ducret from ChangeLogic share their experiences of implementing experimental frameworks in China for General Motors. They emphasize the critical steps of assumption analysis, prioritizing hypotheses, and iterative experimentation, while also addressing challenges in corporate environments, such as maintaining cultural buy-in and celebrating failures as learning opportunities. Sponsored by Wazoku, the episode offers deep dives into innovation management, strategic risk-taking, and the use of connected collective intelligence to drive business success.

    00:00 Introduction: The Pitfalls of Instinct-Driven Decisions

    00:40 The Role of Data in Corporate Exploration

    01:07 Sponsor Message: Wazoku's Innovation Ecosystem

    01:56 Incubation and De-risking New Business Ideas

    02:19 Meet the Corporate Explorers: Sarah Spoto and Vincent Ducraix

    02:50 Sarah Spoto's Journey in Corporate Innovation

    04:40 Vincent Ducraix's Background and Experience

    06:55 The Business Learning Life Cycle Framework

    08:10 The Importance of De-risking in Corporate Ventures

    13:04 Challenges and Strategies in Corporate Experimentation

    14:33 The Role of Leadership and Team Buy-in

    21:08 Case Study: Experimentation in China

    30:28 Final Thoughts and Contact Information

    Find Sarah here: https://sarahspoto.com

    Find Vincent here: https://changelogic.com/team/vincent-ducret/

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/vducret/

    Key Takeaways

    This conversation explores business experimentation using a framework outlined in the Corporate Explorer book. Here are the key takeaways:

    Challenges of Corporate Innovation:

    • Reliance on past experience can lead to failure in new ventures due to high uncertainties.
    • Traditional methods like surveys might not capture the right data for untested ideas.

    The Business Experiments Framework:

    • Identify Key Assumptions: List all critical assumptions about your new venture (customer value proposition,problem addressed, etc.).
    • Prioritize Assumptions: Focus on the riskiest assumptions that could derail the project.
    • Design Experiments: Create creative experiments to test these assumptions with real customer data (not just surveys).
    • Collect Learnings: Analyze experiment results to validate or disprove assumptions.
    • Iterate: Use learnings to refine your approach and potentially conduct new experiments on remaining assumptions.

    Benefits of Business Experiments:

    • Reduces risk by validating assumptions before significant resource investment.
    • Provides data-driven decision making for building the right product for the right customer.

    Challenges of Implementing Business Experiments:

    • Balancing Speed and De-risking: There's a tension between demonstrating progress and taking the time to properly de-risk the project.
    • Cultural Shift: Organizations need to embrace experimentation and see failures as learning opportunities.
    • Team Buy-in: Both leadership and working-level teams need to understand the value of experimentation.

    Success Factors:

    • Strong Leadership Support: Having advocates who understand and champion the approach is crucial.
    • Cultural Investment: Educate teams on the process and celebrate failures as learning opportunities.
    • Focus on Learning: Value the insights gained from experiments, even if they disprove assumptions.

    Example Implementation:

    • Sarah Spoto's experience in China highlights the importance of setting the right incentives and building a cross-functional team for experimentation.
    • Assumptions analysis is a valuable starting point, even if full experimentation isn't implemented.

    Overall, business experimentation offers a structured approach for de-risking new ventures and making data-driven decisions in the face of uncertainty.

    32 min
  • Sally Susman - Breaking Through

    The Power of Communication: Insights from Sally Susman, Author of 'Breaking Through'

    In this episode, Aiden welcomes Sally Susman, author of 'Breaking Through: Communicating to Open Minds, Move Hearts, and Change the World' to discuss the vital role of communication in professional and personal settings. Sally shares insights from her extensive career, including her experiences working with top leaders at Pfizer, Estee Lauder, and American Express. The discussion explores the misconception of communication as a soft skill, the importance of authentic outreach, the power of gratitude, and Susman's innovative approaches during the COVID-19 pandemic. Sally also emphasises curiosity, creativity, and intentionality as key components for effective communication. Throughout the episode, real-life anecdotes and practical advice offer listeners valuable lessons on leadership and connection.

    00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

    00:39 The Importance of Communication

    03:24 Lessons from Estee Lauder

    06:09 Personal Background and Family Influence

    08:51 The Power of Gratitude

    13:15 Perfecting Your Pitch

    23:02 Humour in the Workplace

    29:36 Challenges at Pfizer

    32:03 Facing the Biopharma Reputation Challenge

    33:37 The Pandemic's Impact and New Leadership

    35:02 Albert Bourla's Bold Vision

    36:30 Revolutionising Vaccine Development

    37:25 The Media's Role in the Journey

    38:55 Pfizer's Transformation and Recognition

    40:46 Innovative Leadership and Personal Growth

    49:30 Curiosity and Creativity in Action

    56:47 The Power of Intentionality

    58:46 Concluding Thoughts and Inspirations

    Find Sally here: https://www.sallysusman.com/media/

    1 hr 1 min

About The Innovation Show

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The Innovation Show is a business innovation podcast hosted by Aidan McCullen, recipient of the 2025 Thinkers50 Innovation Award and author of Undisruptable. Each week Aidan interviews the authors, researchers and practitioners reshaping how organisations think about innovation, leadership, change and reinvention.

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