The Locked up Living Podcast: Surviving and thriving in prisons and other challenging environments

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The Locked up Living Podcast: Surviving and thriving in prisons and other challenging environments episodes

August 10, 2022 92. Ray Bishop. Outlaw - A personal story of crime, addictions and recovery
David first met Ray Bishop when he came to HMP Grendon in 2003. He did well there and moved on towards release. It was not an easy path and Ray's tendency towards self destructive and addictive behaviour caused him to seek support and treatment several more times. Ray is the author of Outlaw a book based upon his experiences growing up in a council estate in South East London. Ray tells all of his early days of petty crime. Being despatched to notoriously violent youth-detention centres where he was further criminalized he graduated with flying colours to a career in London's underworld as an armed robber, a drug smuggler and a people trafficker, developing a serious addiction to cocaine and heroin along the way.But Ray's is also story of redemption, of coming back from rock bottom and learning lessons the hard back. Enrolling in a rigorous rehabilitation programme, Ray turned his life around. He went on to realise his childhood dream of becoming British Middleweight Boxing Champion, setting up his own business and advocating for others along the way.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Outlaw-Became-Britains-Most-Wanted-ebook/dp/B00IZK2XKM

Transcript is available here:

https://open.substack.com/pub/lockedupliving/p/ray-bishop-from-outlaw-to-entrepreneur?r=216eb0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
1 hr 8 min
August 03, 2022 91. Mary Haley.Psychotherapy in HMP Grendon therapeutic communities
Mary Haley was until very recently Head of Psychotherapy at HMP Grendon the only fully therapeutic prison in the UK and which incidentally celebrates its 60th anniversary in 2022. She is now Head of Training and Development also at Grendon.
We are very pleased to be talking with Mary because she has had an unusual career pathway working in different roles within the prison service. These roles include prison officer, governor, inreach psychotherapist and wing therapist on a therapeutic community.
1 hr 4 min
July 27, 2022 90. Paul Gately talks about the emotional cost of the obesity epidemic.
Paul Gately is Director of MoreLife and a Professor of Exercise and Obesity at Leeds Beckett University, he is the Co-Director of the Obesity Institute at Leeds Beckett University. Paul was the Principle Investigator on Public Health England’s Whole Systems Approach to Obesity and he is the Co-director of the Centre for Applied Obesity Research. His primary research interest is child and adult obesity treatment strategies but also the wider determinants of obesity. Paul has delivered over 600 presentations and scientific publications, as well as numerous policy documents on obesity treatment, whole systems approaches to obesity and physical activity promotion.

https://www.leedsbeckett.ac.uk/blogs/carnegie-xchange/2022/02/professor-paul-gately-obesity-institute/

https://www.more-life.co.uk/morelifeteam/paul-gately/
1 hr 7 min
July 20, 2022 89. Dave Harris Boxing, dementia and the need for specialist care
Dave Harris is a former amateur boxer as well as having worked as a trainer, manager and promoter of boxers. He is founder of the British Boxing Hall of Fame and also founded the Ringside Trust which is a charity aspiring to create a residential home for former boxers. He also worked for many years in the social services sector managing residential homes.

https://ringsiderestandcare.com/
1 hr 5 min
July 13, 2022 88. Ally Fogg. Men and Boys Coalition co-founder on campaigning for justice for both women and men
This conversation is with writer, journalist, and co-founder of the men's men and boys coalition Ally Fogg. Ally is used to writing for national press. So is someone who has well thought out arguments around many issues that relate to men and boys.
Ally Fogg is a writer and journalist who has written extensively on men and boys’ issues for the Guardian and many other national and international media outlets. His work has always closely involved social and political activism, with many years in the not-for-profit and charitable sectors, including periods as staff writer for Big Issue in the North and developing community media in disadvantaged inner city areas. He lives in Manchester with two sons, two dogs, two cats and two guitars. Ally is a co-founder and Trustee of the Men and Boys Coalition.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/nov/19/international-mens-day

https://web.archive.org/web/20161116145929/http://freethoughtblogs.com/hetpat/2016/11/15/introducing-the-men-and-boys-coalition-how-the-british-mens-sector-has-come-of-age/

https://web.archive.org/web/20180901025653/http://www.inside-man.co.uk/2018/08/21/masculinity-isnt-toxic-debate/

https://web.archive.org/web/20180301213201/https://freethoughtblogs.com/hetpat/2017/12/13/masculinity-the-personal-the-political-and-the-economic/

https://web.archive.org/web/20160506164951/http://freethoughtblogs.com/hetpat/2016/05/06/the-last-great-masculine-delusion-what-even-grayson-perry-doesnt-get/

https://web.archive.org/web/20161119130129/http://freethoughtblogs.com/hetpat/2016/03/31/defining-gender-inclusive-politics/

https://web.archive.org/web/20160401050357/http://freethoughtblogs.com/hetpat/2016/01/12/medway-male-violence-and-invisibilisation/

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/12/male-victims-abuse-violence-support-policy
1 hr 8 min
July 06, 2022 87. Laura Hamilton. Boundary breaking and boundary keeping in forensic settings
Laura has such great clinical and academic experience that we could have talked with her about many things but in this episode we focus on how her thinking on boundaries developed as she worked in the challenging setting of a new personality disorder unit.
Laura Hamilton is a Registered and Chartered Forensic Psychologist and Senior Lecturer. Working in forensic practice for 20 years, she has specialised in the assessment and treatment of trauma and personality disorder with individuals who have convictions. She is an innovative practitioner often working at the cutting edge of clinical practice and seeking new ways of enhancing forensic interventions. She conducted the first trials of Radically Open- Dialectical Behavioural (RODBT) Therapy with forensic service users and was part of the development team which trialled Cognitive Analytic Therapy (CAT). Laura is trained in a range of treatment modalities, including CAT, Dialectical Behavioural Therapy, RODBT, EMDR and Sensorimotor Psychotherapy. As an academic she developed postgraduate courses for forensic psychologists in-training, and delivers specialist teaching, supervision and workshops on a range of applied clinical forensic issues. Her research interests are in applied boundary studies, overcontrol and trauma.
55 min
June 29, 2022 86. Robert Canton . Anger and Disgust in the criminal justice system
In this conversation Rob considers the place of emotions across the criminal justice spectrum.
Rob Canton is Professor in Community and Criminal Justice at De Montfort University, Leicester, UK. Before joining De Montfort, he worked in the Probation Service for some 20 years in a number of different roles. Rob has guested on the podcast before. Rob has contributed to probation development and general penal reform in more than ten different countries, mostly in Europe. He served on the Council of Europe to develop and revise European Rules relating to probation and acted as a Specialist Adviser to the House of Commons Justice Select Committee in its Inquiry into the Role of the Probation Service (2010 -11).Rob has written a number of articles and book chapters as well as authoring a number of books. His latest book is Punishment in the Key ideas in Criminology series. He kindly sent us a chapter to read in preparation for this podcast and its great to have another opportunity to speak with himtoday.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Punishment-Key-Ideas-Criminology-Canton-ebook/dp/B0B455ZJZ3/ref=sr_1_4?qid=1656437431&refinements=p_27%3ARob+Canton&s=books&sr=1-4
1 hr 3 min
June 22, 2022 85. Alexander Oviawe. ”Too inner city” How a (racist) phrase can affect your mental health
This week our podcast conversation may seem a little different. But we are still seeking methods and activities which provide opportunities for stress relief and deveopment.
Alexander Oviawe is a former physiologist and founder of a tech start up that used different ways to model physical stress. During the difficult period of shutting down the start up, he became clinically depressed and developed generalised anxiety disorder. After receiving help, Alexander became fascinated with heart rate variability, psychophysiology and technology. He is working with University of East London to explore the use of HRV and emotional regulation. He now leads a company developing web based applications to monitor Heart rate variation (HRV), see the link to the free app below.
PsychogenX Explorer is a web application used by practitioners as a client support tool to remotely observe and assess emotional regulation and wellness changes. Along with the Explorer web app, PsychogenX comes with a Client Wellness App; a scientifically-validated wellness app that turns your client's smartphone into a powerful biofeedback device to help quantify psychophysiological changes.
Find a link to the app here
https://psychogenx.health/
See two papwers related to the method here.
https://www.bacp.co.uk/bacp-journals/private-practice/september-2021/how-the-body-responds-to-racism/
https://psychogenx.medium.com/how-to-use-heart-rate-variability-for-psychotherapy-2e386bb2a0bf

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45 min
June 21, 2022 15 minute submission to Pod of the Year, Wellness category
We submitted to the Podcast of the Year Awards and have been shortlisted for one category. (Hooray!!) Please can you vote for us.
Go to this link, type in The Locked Up Living podcast and follow the link to post for us.
https://www.britishpodcastawards.com/vote
and you can see all of the podcasts and 15 minute submissions here
https://lockedupliving.podbean.com/
This is what we wrote about the podcast;
Locked Up Living is on a mission to challenge the silo thinking that pervades macho organisations such as the criminal justice system by covering subjects that are directly relevant but haven’t yet had enough visibility to become influential. We have featured guests tackling subjects with innovative implications for custodial settings (and other toxic organisations); several of our guests would be considered radical thinkers and we’ve covered subjects that forensic practitioners are often frightened to talk or even think about. We are particularly interested in guests whose work shines a spotlight on the challenges to those who live and work in locked environments and ways to overcome the barriers to well-being that these obstacles raise. We are especially interested in emotional literacy and health. Our podcast is popular with those researching or working in prisons and other locked or challenging environments including criminologists, psychologists, psychotherapists and other mental health professionals. This was David and Naomi’s first foray into podcasting. Started as a lockdown spare-time venture, neither has any experience of audio planning and production so we’ve had to develop skills as we go along. Several of our listeners are academics who’ve recommended our podcast to their students and the positive feedback we’ve received has encouraged us to continue beyond lockdown. We are regularly approached by people wanting to appear
on the podcast to promote their work.
Our weekly podcast was downloaded 14k times during the course of the year.
15 min
June 21, 2022 15 minute submission. Christoph Heubner Poet, Vive Chair International Auschwitz Committee.
We submitted to the Podcast of the Year Awards and have been shortlisted for one category. (Hooray!!) Please can you vote for us.
Go to this link, type in The Locked Up Living podcast and follow the link to post for us.
https://www.britishpodcastawards.com/vote

This is what we wrote about the podcast;
Locked Up Living is on a mission to challenge the silo thinking that pervades machoorganisations such as the criminal justice system by covering subjects that are directlyrelevant but haven’t yet had enough visibility to become influential. We have featuredguests tackling subjects with innovative implications for custodial settings (and other toxicorganisations); several of our guests would be considered radical thinkers and we’vecovered subjects that forensic practitioners are often frightened to talk or even think about.We are particularly interested in guests whose work shines a spotlight on the challenges tothose who live and work in locked environments and ways to overcome the barriers to well-being that these obstacles raise. We are especially interested in emotional literacy andhealth. Our podcast is popular with those researching or working in prisons and otherlocked or challenging environments including criminologists, psychologists,psychotherapists and other mental health professionals.This was David and Naomi’s first foray into podcasting. Started as a lockdown spare-timeventure, neither has any experience of audio planning and production so we’ve had todevelop skills as we go along. Several of our listeners are academics who’ve recommendedour podcast to their students and the positive feedback we’ve received has encouraged usto continue beyond lockdown. We are regularly approached by people wanting to appearon the podcast to promote their work.Our weekly podcast was downloaded 14k times during the course of the year.
15 min

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