In this episode Jay and myself talk about what it was like growing up in Sudan, culture, having a sense of identity, life as petroleum engineer, numbers and how you can apply these principles to life, Brazilian jiu-jitsu and whole bunch of interesting conversations. I hope you guys get a lot of good information and some laughs out of it. You can find Jay on Instagram @ iam_jurkin and Lachie @lachisawake (apologise for the construction noise in the background )