Welcome to the Mindful FIRE Podcast, where we explore living mindfully on the path to financial independence and beyond.
On today's episode of the podcast, I'm excited to bring you a really special guest. Sarah McCrum. Sarah was introduced to me by a former guest Morgan Bricca. Morgan joined us on episode six, seven and fourteen of the podcast.
Sarah is an author educator and business innovator. She's the founder of Liberate Humanity, which is a place for learning and sharing the skills for liberation of the human spirit. Sarah has spent more than 20 years teaching and coaching business owners and their families.
She is the creator of the innovative program “Thank You Money” based on the principles of her book, Love Money, Money Loves You.
My conversation with Sarah was so interesting that we talked for almost two hours so I wanted to break this episode into bite sized chunks for you.
On part one of my conversation we cover a whole lot, including her journey with money, which led her to write the book, Love Money, Money Loves You.
She shares how she had to put these principles into practice in her own life when she moved from the UK to Australia, with her husband, and essentially had to start over from zero. And how she used these principles to grow her wealth and her business after starting over.
I absolutely love this conversation with Sarah and I'm so excited to share with you.
In today's conversation we discuss:
- Sarah’s journey and what she’s up to in the world
- Sarah’s journey with money and how the book love money, Money loves you came into the world
- Money as currency of connection between humans and connection and creativity
- How money flowing from one person to another is a connecting and loving energy
- How we can maximize our value by changing the way we relate to money.
- How do we find that balance between, being open to receiving and having a vision for our life, but not getting so caught up in one or the other that we really lose the balance.
- Enjoyment as a kind of barometer of success
- How we can cultivate the c
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You did the “money” part. You saved, invested, and built real options. But if you’re being honest… FU money alone isn’t enough—and you might still feel stuck in “one more year syndrome,” unclear on what you actually want next.
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🔥 WHO I’m creating this for
This is for you if you’re at or near FI (Coast FI or full FIRE) and:
- You feel stuck after “doing everything right,” but you’re not sure what you’re optimizing for anymore.
- You’re caught between freedom and overwhelm (“I could do anything… so I do nothing”).
- You want clarity and momentum—but you don’t want someone to tell you what to do.
🔥 WHAT we’ll do together (over 10 weeks)
In a small group (mastermind-style), you’ll:
- Get clear on what you actually want (beyond expectations, comparison, and “shoulds”).
- Create a big, meaningful vision for your next chapter—one that fits who you are now.
- Learn the brain science behind envisioning (why it works, and how to use it).
- Turn yo...