In this episode, Alan is joined by Shoshana Woodinsky, veteran journalist in the ads space turned tech expert for the Federal Trade Commission. Shoshana offers an unfiltered view of how things sometimes function at the Commission - and shares some insights on how recent FTC policies impact the ads space.

Takeaways

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Privacy and Regulation

03:08 The Role of the FTC in Privacy Standards

05:43 Lina Khan's Impact on Consumer Protection

08:53 Navigating Between Technology and Economics

11:33 The Challenges of Bureaucracy in Regulation

14:45 Investigating Bias in Advertising

17:30 The Complexity of Legal Theories

20:16 The Nature of FTC Investigations

23:16 The Balance of Ideology in the FTC

26:32 The Future of Privacy Regulation

29:29 Conclusion and Reflections on FTC Dynamics

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In this episode, Alan discusses Contextual Integrity as applied to the ad space with Professor Helen Nissenbaum. They go deep into profiling and the use of PETs. Alan encourages listeners to check out some of Helen's writing at https://nissenbaum.tech.cornell.edu/main_cv.html#pub

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Kamyl Bazbaz and Joseph Jerome from DuckDuckGo join Alan to discuss the role of the browser, the intersection between privacy and competition and how DuckDuckGo differentiates itself within the craziness of larger ads space. 

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Ari Paparo and Alan Chapell discuss Ari's new book Yield: How Google Bought, Built, and Bullied its Way to Advertising Dominance. They also talk about the potential impact of the fallout of Google's antitrust trials on the marketplace. And Ari provides some insights as to why it's difficult for privacy and regulatory issues to make their way into the C-suite.

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Megan Gray joins host Alan Chapell for a discussion of the various remedies being proposed in the Google Search Antitrust Trial with the DOJ as we head towards Judge Mehta's decision in that case later this summer. 

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The Meta antitrust trial has been undercovered with in the ads space. Host Alan Chapell brings antitrust litigator Brendan Benedict on to get a sense of the core arguments of both the FTC and Meta and make some predictions on how this case will play out. 

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Former Director of the Bureau of Consumer Protection at the FTC Samuel AA Levin joins Alan Chapell to discuss a recent law review article he co-authored, how privacy and consumer protection were undercut during the 1980's, and how the Lina Kahn FTC sought to bring them back. Within the context of the digital ads space, they discussed: DNT, Industry self-regulation, notice and choice and the pro's and con's of a harms based approach. 

Check out the Stanford Law Review article Sam co-authored with Lina Kahn and Stephanie T. Nguyen titled: After Notice and Choice: Reinvigorating “Unfairness” to Rein In Data Abuses. The article is available at: https://www.stanfordlawreview.org/print/article/after-notice-and-choice-reinvigorating-unfairness-to-rein-in-data-abuses/

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Host Alan Chapell moderates a debate between Erez Levin (buy-side) and Gareth Glaser (sell-side) on how the ad tech marketplace is shifting while interjecting a few nuggets about the role of privacy and competition as we look towards 2026 and beyond. 

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Journalist Marty Swant (Digiday, Forbes, NY Times) joins Alan Chapell to talk about the ways an ad industry trade journalist combats spin in their search for truth. Marty also drops some thoughts on key trends in the ads space that are not getting nearly enough attention.

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In part two of this two part interview, host Alan Chapell and Jonathan Kanter go deep on the Google ad tech antitrust trial remedies phase. 

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