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Join me as I delve into the world of running with Laura Norris, a passionate runner, running coach, and expert in the science of running. After discovering her love for running during her undergraduate studies, Laura dedicated her postgraduate studies and career to understanding how running impacts our bodies and minds. As a science writer and coach to over 500 runners, her insights have been featured by reputable outlets like Runner’s World and NPR.
In this episode, Laura shares her knowledge on various topics, including:
- How different running paces enhance our performance
- The factors that determine our running potential
- Exciting breakthroughs in running science
- The importance of consistency and patience in training
- Misconceptions about running that need to be debunked
Tune in to gain valuable insights and motivation to elevate your running journey!
ABOUT LAURA:
Laura Norris is a certified running coach, science writer, and podcaster. She earned her MSc in Applied Exercise Science from Concordia University Chicago in 2021. She takes a science-based training approach and has coached over 500 runners, from first-time runners to podium finishes. She has been writing in the running space for over ten years, with her website Laura Norris Running and now a Substack. She co-hosts the popular Tread Lightly Podcast and has appeared in publications including Runner's World, NPR Life Kit, Outside, GQ, Self, Shape, and more.
RESOURCES:
· TREAD LIGHTLY PODCAST
· WEBSITE
· SUBSTACK
· IG: @LAURANORRISRUNNING
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Whitney Heins is a mom of 2, a lifelong runner, a VDOT-certified running coach for moms who run, and founder of the resource, themotherrunners.com. When training for her first marathon as a mom, she found a dearth of information related to running and motherhood. She also felt extremely isolated as a new mom. As a former TV journalist and a freelance writer she decided to use her skills to fill the void with an online resource and community, called The Mother Runners. Whitney also recognized a need for run coaches who understood the demands of motherhood, so she also became a running coach—unearthing a passion for helping moms reap the rewards and empowerment of running. Coming out of a long injury cycle, she ran a 2:54 marathon and 1:20 half marathon in her 40s. She lives in Knoxville, TN with her husband, two kids, and three dogs.
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Rachel Tinius had the most perfect build to run a sub-3-hour marathon in Chicago. But the morning of the race, something was off. Her Garmin’s body battery read 8 percent. And the first few miles of the marathon felt like she was running 5k effort. Soon her entire body started cramping. She made it to the finish, deep in the pain cave, and really confused. She was so ready for that race. What happened?
Rachel, an exercise scientist and mom of 4, reveals how her struggles were not rooted in nutrition or training but in performance anxiety. Discover how she overcame these mental barriers and successfully broke the 3-hour marathon barrier twice! Rachel shares practical strategies for managing anxiety to enhance performance and achieve your athletic goals.
Plus, don't miss the bonus episode on Patreon, where Rachel explores her research on exercise during pregnancy. She dispels common myths and offers insights on safe and beneficial practices for pregnant women, all through her work with BumptUp Labs, boasting a specialized pregnancy strength training program app.
More about Dr. Rachel Tinius, PhD, ACSM-CEP:
Rachel is an Exercise Physiologist with a PhD in Movement Science. She is a professor at Western Kentucky University as well as the founder and CEO of BumptUp Labs. Her area of expertise is exercise during pregnancy with over 40 publications and 15 years of experience in this area. Rachel is deeply passionate about running at all phases of life. She was a former D1 college soccer player and runner.
In college Rachel, accomplished a lot: she was a 3x all conference soccer player and an academic All-American at WKU. She was also an all-conference awardee in the 3000m Steeplechase! Once she finished running in college, she continued to run in local races and challenge herself with new distances .She currently enjoys running distances from 5k (17:37 PR) to the marathon (2:57 PR).
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Whitney Heins is a mom of 2, a lifelong runner, a VDOT-certified running coach for moms who run, and founder of the resource, themotherrunners.com. When training for her first marathon as a mom, she found a dearth of information related to running and motherhood. She also felt extremely isolated as a new mom. As a former TV journalist and a freelance writer she decided to use her skills to fill the void with an online resource and community, called The Mother Runners. Whitney also recognized a need for run coaches who understood the demands of motherhood, so she also became a running coach—unearthing a passion for helping moms reap the rewards and empowerment of running. Coming out of a long injury cycle, she ran a 2:54 marathon and 1:20 half marathon in her 40s. She lives in Knoxville, TN with her husband, two kids, and three dogs.
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What didn’t Keira D’Amato and I talk about!? From our most hated fruit to losing weight postpartum and mom guilt—we cover a lot. Truthfully, I could talk to Keira for hours—she is fun and a wealth of valuable insights for mother runners.
This interview supplements Keira’s amazing new book called Don’t Call it a Comeback: What Happened When I Stopped Chasing PRs, and Started Chasing Happiness.
She shares how she was able to take that literal first step when she felt isolated and directionless as a newer mom. Six years later, that first step would lead her to setting the American record in the marathon. Keira is open, honest, and vulnerable.
Some other topics we take on:
-Imposter syndrome as a runner
-How to make running “stick”
-Changes she’s made as a master’s runner
-How she overcome mom guilt
-Her toolkit to battle negative self-talk
-Her favorite snacks
Keira is not just amazing because she’s so fast. She is just an amazing human with a beautiful perspective on all things (good, bad, and hard).
I hope you enjoy my talk with Keira!
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More about Keira D’Amato:
Keira D'Amato is a four-time USATF National Champion: the 2021 women’s half-marathon (1:07:55), the 2022 women’s 6k (17:52), the 2022 20k (1:04:29), and the 2024 20k (1:06:25). In 2022, she broke a sixteen-year American record in the marathon by running 2:19:12. She holds the world best time in the women’s-only 10-mile, and finished 8th at the World Championship Marathon in 2022. She is the proud owner of Potomac River Run & Walk, a specialty running store in Richmond, Virginia. She now lives in Park City with her family.
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Whitney Heins is a mom of 2, a lifelong runner, a VDOT-certified running coach for moms who run, and founder of the resource, themotherrunners.com. When training for her first marathon as a mom, she found a dearth of information related to running and motherhood. She also felt extremely isolated as a new mom. As a former TV journalist and a freelance writer she decided to use her skills to fill the void with an online resource and community, called The Mother Runners. Whitney also recognized a need for run coaches who understood the demands of motherhood, so she also became a running coach—unearthing a passion for helping moms reap the rewards and empowerment of running. Coming out of a long injury cycle, she ran a 2:54 marathon and 1:20 half marathon in her 40s. She lives in Knoxville, TN with her husband, two kids, and three dogs.
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Audra McPartland, a dedicated runner and mother of four, PE teacher, and soon-to-be masters runner, was on fire running personal records in several distances going from a 23-minute 5K to sub-18, a 1:42 half marathon to 1:20, and a 3:42 marathon to 2:59. But then she started to not feel like herself. Her build up for the New York Marathon was full of fatigue and like she was running through quicksand.
It took a lot of self-advocacy in the healthcare system for Audra to get to the bottom of what was going on--and get back to feeling (and running!) her best. Audra shares her lessons and how she is now aiming to reach her peak potential past 40.
Audra also shares how she’s committed to inspire children and other moms to stay active, her secret to balancing training and her life as a working mom, and how she’s harnessed the power of mindset to overcome obstacles. You’ll leave this conversation ready to get going!
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MORE ABOUT AUDRA:
Audra is a disciplined runner, a mother of four, and a dedicated PE teacher who has been running consistently since 2011—even through her last three pregnancies. Living on a farm and approaching 40, she is on a mission to reach peak performance as a master runner while helping her children chase their dreams—from college basketball to futures in banking, sports, and the restaurant business. With all four kids in school (K–8th grade) and involved in year-round sports, she focuses on keeping them active, hungry for success, and engaged, with the support of her husband, a former farmer and now an elementary school vice principal.
With a strong focus and a passion for growth, Audra draws inspiration from other runners’ stories and mindset audiobooks. She trains on country roads and a 300-meter loop around their house, fueled by high-energy motivational pop rock music. Whether she is running or living life to the fullest, she aims to inspire other moms and runners of all levels to embrace challenges, push their limits, and discover what they are truly capable of.
Connect with Audra:
IG: @audramcpartland
Blog: https://mommymcpartlandrunner.blogspot.com/p/running-history.html
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running, motherhood, health, fitness, motivation, family, mindset, challenges, personal growth, sports
Whitney Heins is a mom of 2, a lifelong runner, a VDOT-certified running coach for moms who run, and founder of the resource, themotherrunners.com. When training for her first marathon as a mom, she found a dearth of information related to running and motherhood. She also felt extremely isolated as a new mom. As a former TV journalist and a freelance writer she decided to use her skills to fill the void with an online resource and community, called The Mother Runners. Whitney also recognized a need for run coaches who understood the demands of motherhood, so she also became a running coach—unearthing a passion for helping moms reap the rewards and empowerment of running. Coming out of a long injury cycle, she ran a 2:54 marathon and 1:20 half marathon in her 40s. She lives in Knoxville, TN with her husband, two kids, and three dogs.
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This new podcast features in-depth and fun interviews with mother runners (aka moms who run). Some names you may recognize, and some you may not. Every single mother runner has an incredible story regardless of how far or fast they run. Embedded in each story are chapters of strength, hope, and overcoming. This podcast exists because we need to hear each other's stories to not only lift each other up, but learn, grow, and be inspired. This podcast will motivate and entertain you--while on the run, in the car line, or folding the laundry. Stay tuned for interviews to be dropping later this month. Thanks for being here!
Whitney Heins is a mom of 2, a lifelong runner, a VDOT-certified running coach for moms who run, and founder of the resource, themotherrunners.com. When training for her first marathon as a mom, she found a dearth of information related to running and motherhood. She also felt extremely isolated as a new mom. As a former TV journalist and a freelance writer she decided to use her skills to fill the void with an online resource and community, called The Mother Runners. Whitney also recognized a need for run coaches who understood the demands of motherhood, so she also became a running coach—unearthing a passion for helping moms reap the rewards and empowerment of running. Coming out of a long injury cycle, she ran a 2:54 marathon and 1:20 half marathon in her 40s. She lives in Knoxville, TN with her husband, two kids, and three dogs.
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This was such a great episode! We chat with Megan Robinson, a registered sports dietitian nutritionist, about how to fuel for all stages of “motherrunnerhood” from pre-pregnancy to postpartum and into perimenopause. Megan shares her expertise on how to maintain energy availability, the significance of colorful plates, and the necessity of adequate protein intake.
Our conversation also touches on the challenges of postpartum nutrition, the impact of hormonal changes during perimenopause, and the importance of intuitive eating and strength training for women. You, our lovely listeners, are encouraged to prioritize your nutrition and listen to your bodies' needs during these transformative phases.
Thank you Megan for a great conversation!
Learn more about Megan here:
https://www.megansportsrd.com
Instagram: @megansportsrdn
Email: [email protected]
MORE ABOUT MEGAN:
Megan has been a registered dietitian nutritionist since 1994 and has been with The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia since 2001. She established her private practice, MeganSportsRD, LLC, in 2017. A Board Certified Specialist in Sports Dietetics and a Certified Diabetes Care and Education Specialist, Megan also serves as a Level 1 certified Road Runners Club of America coach. A seasoned distance runner herself, she has competed in many races, including the Boston Marathon, and offers personalized training programs for runners of all levels, leveraging her dual expertise in sports nutrition and running.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Fueling in Motherhood
08:59 Nutrition for Pregnancy and Pre-Pregnancy
25:34 Fueling for Long-Distance Running During Pregnancy
27:41 The Risks of Fasted Running
34:54 Postpartum Nutrition and Running
42:54 Weight Management Postpartum
45:08 Nutrition Timing and Strategies for Moms
47:14 Packing Snacks Like a Pro
49:07 Mindful Eating and Hunger Management
52:10 Navigating Perimenopause and Menopause Nutrition
57:46 Understanding Nutritional Needs During the Menstrual Cycle
Whitney Heins is a mom of 2, a lifelong runner, a VDOT-certified running coach for moms who run, and founder of the resource, themotherrunners.com. When training for her first marathon as a mom, she found a dearth of information related to running and motherhood. She also felt extremely isolated as a new mom. As a former TV journalist and a freelance writer she decided to use her skills to fill the void with an online resource and community, called The Mother Runners. Whitney also recognized a need for run coaches who understood the demands of motherhood, so she also became a running coach—unearthing a passion for helping moms reap the rewards and empowerment of running. Coming out of a long injury cycle, she ran a 2:54 marathon and 1:20 half marathon in her 40s. She lives in Knoxville, TN with her husband, two kids, and three dogs.
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The gang is back with all 4 of us today! This was a fun one to start and then we got serious talking about our own experiences with perfectionism and what has helped us battle this pressure. We share humorous anecdotes about parenting and the challenges of maintaining a perfect image, while also emphasizing the importance of embracing imperfection and authenticity.
Our conversation delves into the subjective nature of perfection and how it affects mental health, ultimately encouraging listeners to accept themselves as they are. We also explore the impact of these pressures on self-image and the need for an 'imperfection movement' to encourage openness and acceptance among individuals, especially mothers. Who’s with us?!
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage
02:28 Exploring Perfectionism
05:21 Generational Perspectives on Parenting
08:09 Humor and Miscommunication in Everyday Life
10:53 The Imperfection of Professionals
13:36 Closing Thoughts and Reflections
15:55 Navigating Perfectionism in Parenting and Life
27:14 The Illusion of Perfection in Social Media
36:01 Embracing Authenticity and Messiness
39:45 The Illusion of Perfection
41:42 Vulnerability and Connection
44:28 The Pressure of Parenting
48:13 Celebrating Achievements and Personal Stories
52:05 Embracing Imperfection
55:50 Closing Thoughts and Reflections
Whitney Heins is a mom of 2, a lifelong runner, a VDOT-certified running coach for moms who run, and founder of the resource, themotherrunners.com. When training for her first marathon as a mom, she found a dearth of information related to running and motherhood. She also felt extremely isolated as a new mom. As a former TV journalist and a freelance writer she decided to use her skills to fill the void with an online resource and community, called The Mother Runners. Whitney also recognized a need for run coaches who understood the demands of motherhood, so she also became a running coach—unearthing a passion for helping moms reap the rewards and empowerment of running. Coming out of a long injury cycle, she ran a 2:54 marathon and 1:20 half marathon in her 40s. She lives in Knoxville, TN with her husband, two kids, and three dogs.
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Whew, what an episode. This week we take on a listener question about how we stay motivated to run. This is not your typical discussion about all the ways to force ourselves out the door. We discuss self-reflection and how to get to the root cause of feeling less enthused about running. And we give tips that have helped us if we decided we wanted to keep going or how we have decided to press pause. In fact, Shanna has shared she has decided to press pause on her marathon goals and drop out of Chicago.
The episode ends rather abruptly when something happens in the room Whitney is recording in.
Per usual, this episode begins with our usual banter laced with inappropriateness. We are who we are.
We hope we keep you company on the run or in the car line or doing laundry, etc.
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Whitney Heins is a mom of 2, a lifelong runner, a VDOT-certified running coach for moms who run, and founder of the resource, themotherrunners.com. When training for her first marathon as a mom, she found a dearth of information related to running and motherhood. She also felt extremely isolated as a new mom. As a former TV journalist and a freelance writer she decided to use her skills to fill the void with an online resource and community, called The Mother Runners. Whitney also recognized a need for run coaches who understood the demands of motherhood, so she also became a running coach—unearthing a passion for helping moms reap the rewards and empowerment of running. Coming out of a long injury cycle, she ran a 2:54 marathon and 1:20 half marathon in her 40s. She lives in Knoxville, TN with her husband, two kids, and three dogs.
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This episode features Olivia & Shanna unhinged. Well, sort of. They two talk about some unserious things like GOLF (well, non-serious for us) & pretty serious things like Shanna's decision to drop out of Chicago--& overall how to decide when to do a race, and when to NOT...and all the factors that go into that decision. The conversation also touches on how we can take running too seriously & course corrections for that.
This pod is the closest thing to going on one of their early morning runs! We hope you find it entertaining and helpful!
Whitney Heins is a mom of 2, a lifelong runner, a VDOT-certified running coach for moms who run, and founder of the resource, themotherrunners.com. When training for her first marathon as a mom, she found a dearth of information related to running and motherhood. She also felt extremely isolated as a new mom. As a former TV journalist and a freelance writer she decided to use her skills to fill the void with an online resource and community, called The Mother Runners. Whitney also recognized a need for run coaches who understood the demands of motherhood, so she also became a running coach—unearthing a passion for helping moms reap the rewards and empowerment of running. Coming out of a long injury cycle, she ran a 2:54 marathon and 1:20 half marathon in her 40s. She lives in Knoxville, TN with her husband, two kids, and three dogs.
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This episode is a special one. We answer our listeners’ questions which vary from what our favorite shoes are to how we handle mom guilt when leaving our kids to run (& have our partners watch them).
Per usual, this episode begins with us catching up on our current status of mom life. Shanna and Olivia discuss how it feels being alone for the first time since becoming a mom with their kids now in school. And we go on a tangent about nursing and pumping, among other things.
We will be doing more Q & A episodes on our secret podcast on Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/c/MileswithMomsPodcast). Don’t forget to sign up for a e-newsletter at mileswithmoms.com. & leave a review wherever you listen to podcasts!
Thanks for being here!
Whitney Heins is a mom of 2, a lifelong runner, a VDOT-certified running coach for moms who run, and founder of the resource, themotherrunners.com. When training for her first marathon as a mom, she found a dearth of information related to running and motherhood. She also felt extremely isolated as a new mom. As a former TV journalist and a freelance writer she decided to use her skills to fill the void with an online resource and community, called The Mother Runners. Whitney also recognized a need for run coaches who understood the demands of motherhood, so she also became a running coach—unearthing a passion for helping moms reap the rewards and empowerment of running. Coming out of a long injury cycle, she ran a 2:54 marathon and 1:20 half marathon in her 40s. She lives in Knoxville, TN with her husband, two kids, and three dogs.
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The Mother Runners is where ambitious moms come to chase bigger goals.
Each episode features in-depth (& often fun!) interviews with mother runners (aka moms who run). Every…
🌀 Real stories of strength, hope, and overcoming
🌀 Training, racing, and mindset lessons you can use in your own running
🌀 Practical ways to fit big goals into a busy family life
We need to hear each other’s stories to lift each other up, learn, grow, and be inspired. This podcast will motivate, entertain, and educate you to reach your potential. Thanks for being here!
This podcast is a SandyBoy Production.
Let’s connect!:
IG: @themotherrunners & themotherrunners.com

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