The MumSafe Pro Podcast

In this deeply honest and vulnerable episode of the MumSafe Podcast, Jen Dugard sits down with Gen D’Rozario, a MumSafe Trainer, nutrition coach, and mum of three, to talk about the physical and emotional realities of living with a prolapse and navigating early postpartum recovery.

From launching a podcast while pregnant to dealing with the grief, ego, and slow healing that comes with prolapse, Gen shares her raw journey, including how she’s using a pessary, managing energy levels, and adjusting her expectations around motherhood, business, and fitness. If you’re a mum or trainer supporting women, this episode is a must-listen.

Episode Highlights
‣ (01:00) Gen’s word, win, and what she’s working on right now
‣ (01:29) Launching a pregnancy and postpartum podcast while heavily pregnant
‣ (02:53) Gen’s journey into the fitness industry and pivot to supporting mums
‣ (04:56) Current structure of her business and how she’s easing back in post-birth
‣ (06:08) Integrating holistic nutrition into her pregnancy and postpartum coaching
‣ (07:27) Living with prolapse: the emotional impact and letting go of “why me”
‣ (11:17) Learning about her prolapse diagnosis during her third pregnancy
‣ (14:00) Signs and symptoms to look out for (leaking, heaviness, fatigue)
‣ (17:25) How training changed during pregnancy and listening to her body
‣ (19:17) Home birth story: from shower contractions to a one-hour labour
‣ (22:41) The reality of postpartum: heaviness, weakness, and early rehab
‣ (25:11) What a pessary is and how it’s supporting her recovery
‣ (28:26) Unexpected triggers for symptoms (like walking with the pram)
‣ (29:25) Advice for trainers discussing pessary use with clients
‣ (32:10) The emotional toll of prolapse and fear of losing strength
‣ (37:01) Navigating postpartum and potential perimenopause overlap
‣ (39:36) Seeing a naturopath and seeking support through bloodwork
‣ (40:08) What's next for Gen: online offerings and redefining success
‣ (43:47) Why the fitness industry needs more trained professionals for mums
‣ (46:13) Why MumSafe trainers are leading the way for lasting change

Connect with Gen:
Instagram: @gendrozario

Website: http://gendrozario.com.au/

Connect with Jen & MumSafe:
Instagram: @jendugard
Register your interest: www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer

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In this episode of the MumSafe Podcast, Jen Dugard is joined by Nikki Knieriem, a MumSafe Trainer who’s gone from financial stress and uncertainty to operating a sold-out fitness business that aligns with both her values and her family life.

Together, they unpack the real, practical steps Nikki took to get out of tax debt, build financial systems that allowed her to pay herself over the school holidays, and shift from overworking in face-to-face sessions to building scalable online offerings.

Whether you're a new trainer or someone ready to go beyond locally famous, this episode will help you get honest about your numbers, own your value, and take strategic steps toward a business that actually supports your life.

Episode Highlights
(01:20) Nikki’s word, win and what she’s working on in 2025
(02:07) How facing a $14K tax debt became the turning point
(03:37) Starting with the MumSafe financial spreadsheet and creating her “big dream” version
(05:36) Why getting real about expenses was painful, but powerful
(06:46) Monthly expense audits and how Nikki decides what stays and what goes
(08:27) Why Nikki invested more in mentoring after facing her finances
(09:20) Letting go of the online program that wasn’t working
(11:56) How she reached near-capacity in her face-to-face business
(13:33) What she did to maintain high client retention and build a waitlist
(15:52) Strategies for filling those last few hard-to-sell daytime spots
(17:27) How Nikki pays herself during school holidays (without stress)
(20:34) Breaking down your annual income goals so your wage continues through term breaks
(24:21) Adding online income through her Strong Start Running Program
(26:14) Using masterclasses to softly launch her program and sell without pressure
(29:00) Why selling to 4 people from 10 signups is actually a win
(33:42) The ripple effect of her free community run club
(36:10) What autonomy means in women’s fitness and how Nikki teaches it
(38:18) Why your pitch matters and how to stop saying “I’m just a PT”
(42:33) Nikki’s advice for trainers who want to make 2025 different
(44:48) The power of small, consistent steps when you’re short on time
(47:24) Nikki’s dream: better education for women and mums across all life stages
(49:00) Why supporting women to run thriving fitness businesses creates industry-wide change

Connect with Nikki:
Instagram: @body4mindconnections 

Website: www.body4mindconnections.com.au

Connect with Jen & MumSafe:
Instagram: @jendugard
Register your interest: www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer

Enjoyed this episode? Let Jen know your biggest takeaway by tagging @jendugard on Instagram, or leave a review to help more trainers find the show.

Welcome to Season 3 of the MumSafe Podcast,  formerly known as the MumSafe Movement Podcast. In this episode, Jen Dugard kicks off the year with a renewed focus on empowering fitness professionals to grow sustainable, values-led businesses that support mums at every stage of motherhood.

Drawing from her own experience as a mum, business owner, and educator, Jen shares the six foundational steps to build a fitness business that not only serves your community but also supports your family and lifestyle. You’ll hear why getting clear on your values, your numbers, and your niche is essential if you want to become the go-to trainer for mums in your area.

This is for the trainers who are ready to stop guessing, get supported, and create a business that works with their life, not against it.

Episode Highlights
(00:01) A fresh season, a new name, and why this shift matters
(02:20) The MumSafe mission: safe, effective care for all mums, driven by strong businesses
(06:50) Jen’s story: making big business decisions to honour family connection
(11:10) Why specificity builds trust and how to clearly define who you serve
(14:50) Know your numbers, how to reverse engineer a sold-out business
(17:59) Take the right actions to stop spinning your wheels
(20:01) Get supported by the power of community and collaboration inside MumSafe
(26:42) What it means to be a Level 1, 2, or 3 MumSafe Trainer
(28:59) Final message, your business can support your life and make an impact

Connect with Jen
Instagram: @jendugard
Website: www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer

Resource

How to create a business that aligns with your whole life: https://www.jendugard.com/values

Get your financial spreadsheet https://www.jendugard.com/spreadsheet

Get your 'Launch your Mum Focused Fitness Biz or Offering Checklist' https://www.jendugard.com/checklist

To access a BONUS resource - How to Launch a Fitness Business for Mums Resource - head to Instagram and comment SOLDOUT under this episodes reel

In this episode of The MumSafe Movement Podcast you get to hear the live MumSafe discussion from Women's Health Week where Jen is joined by four health professionals each working in the women's health space on the topic of Your Voice, Your Choice.

In this episode you will hear from:

If you are listening to this episode in real time applications to become a MumSafe Trainer open at 8am on the 4th September so if you are a trainer and want to become known as the GOLD standard now is the time to ACT!  Apply at www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer

If you are a mum listening to this episode and want to work with a mum-specific Personal Trainer or in a mum group fitness environment head to www.mumsafemovement.com 

Please direct all questions either to [email protected] or into Jen's DM's over on Instagram

In this episode of The MumSafe Movement Podcast Jen talks to Jana Pittman.  Jana is a two times world champion and four times Commonwealth champion in the sport of athletics,

When continual injuries hampered her athletic career which were likely related to her first birth experience she swapped the track for the ice, joining the Australian women's bobsled team and becoming the first woman to represent Australia in both a Summer (2000, 2004) and Winter (2014) Olympic Games.

Off the track, Jana completed a Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery, Masters of Reproductive Medicine and is  completing her PhD in Obstetrics.  Jana is the proud mum of her six children and also recently published her second book ‘Enough’

In 2021, Jana was a participant in the gruelling television show SAS Australia on Channel 7. She made it to the last day of the course and was the final female standing among the 18 celebrity recruits, despite having given birth only five and a half months previously.

Jen and Jana cover a lot in this episode from what it was like to be an elite athlete, give birth and return to elite competition and her passion for women’s health, bridging the gaps between industries and ensuring every woman is fully informed and empowered in their body and choices.

Key topics include:

To connect with Jana further you can find her here on Instagram and to check out her latest book 'Enough' go here 

If you are listening to this episode in real time applications to become a MumSafe Trainer open at 8am on the 4th September so if you are a trainer and want to become known as the GOLD standard now is the time to ACT!  Apply at www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer

If you are a mum listening to this episode and want to work with a mum-specific Personal Trainer or in a mum group fitness environment head to www.mumsafemovement.com 

Please direct all questions either to [email protected] or into Jen's DM's over on Instagram

In this episode of The MumSafe Movement Podcast Jen talks to Anuschka, MumSafe Trainer and owner of Feel Vibrant Fitness in Cleveland on the Redlands Coast in QLD.

Anuschka specialises in educating and empowering women through Movement and Mindset to ‘Feel Vibrant!’. Specifically working with women who want help to positively cope with the challenges and demands of daily life at every stage of life.

Since 2012 Anuschka has been helping individuals and groups through health and fitness coaching to make postive changes to their lives.

Anuschka gave birth to her 2 children in her early 40’s and experienced a collision of post natal and peri-menopausal life. This experience is one of the drivers for her focus and dedication to be part of the movement of health and fitness professionals that are focussing specifically on women's health and fitness through all the stages of a woman's life.

Annuscka is one of the MumSafe quiet achievers who has very limited time each week to work on and in her business. I wanted to delve into her journey because she is a true example of how slow and steady wins the race and I truly believe that when she chooses to go full throttle within her business that because her foundations run so deep she will absolutely fly.

To connect with Anuschka further you can find her here on Instagram and via her profile on the MumSafe webiste here

At the end of this episode we mentioned our 4-day Coaching Week for FitPros that want to make a difference in working with mums - grab your spot here - www.jendugard.com/coaching

If you are a mum listening to this episode and want to work with a mum-specific Personal Trainer or in a mum group fitness environment head to www.mumsafemovement.com 

If you are a coach, trainer or instructor who would like to learn more about becoming a MumSafe Trainer visit www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer

And if you would like to complete your pre and postnatal certification go to https://www.preandpostnatalexerciseacademy.com/safereturntoexercise

Please direct all questions either to [email protected] or into Jen's DM's over on Instagram

In this episode, Jen discusses the reasons why fitness businesses for mums may not be working. She covers five main points: not understanding your values, being afraid to own your niche, having a brand that doesn't stand out, not knowing your numbers, and trying to do it alone. Jen emphasises the importance of knowing your values and aligning them with your business, owning your niche and standing out in the marketplace, creating a memorable brand, understanding your financial numbers, and seeking support from a community of like-minded professionals.

In this episode Jen covers the following key topics:

Register for Coaching Week here

Waitlist now to become a MumSafe Trainer www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer 

And if you would like to complete your pre and postnatal certification go to https://www.preandpostnatalexerciseacademy.com/safereturntoexercise

Please direct all questions either to [email protected] or into Jen's DM's over on Instagram

In this episode of The MumSafe Movement Podcast Jen talks to Filipa Bellette.

Filly is Co-Founder of multi award-winning health practice Chris & Filly Functional Medicine - and author of Ending Body Burnout. She is an accredited Clinical Nutritionist, Functional Medicine Practitioner, Coach & Trauma Therapist. She is also a PhD Scholar & regularly featured in the media, such as the Today Show, nine.com.au, Forbes and Body+Soul.

Together with her husband Chris Bellette, Filipa has worked with over 2,500+ burned-out clients in the past combined 25+ years. Their practice is best known for ending body burnout (for good!) in “busy” people with energy, mood & gut issues, with their ROOT-root-cause approach. 

They were awarded as the Tasmanian State Winner & National Finalist for the Telstra Best of Business Awards 2022, as well as Winner for the Australian Women’s Small Business Champion Awards 2022.

Filipa’s own passion for helping “busy” people have more energy, productivity and connection, came from her own personal experience of body burnout, after juggling the demands of business, family, and her failing health.

In this episode Jen & Filly discuss the following key topics:

To connect with Filly further you can find her here on Instagram and via her webiste here.

If you are a mum listening to this episode and want to work with a mum-specific Personal Trainer or in a mum group fitness environment head to www.mumsafemovement.com 

If you are a coach, trainer or instructor who would like to learn more about becoming a MumSafe Trainer visit www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer

And if you would like to complete your pre and postnatal certification go to https://www.preandpostnatalexerciseacademy.com/safereturntoexercise

Please direct all questions either to [email protected] or into Jen's DM's over on Instagram

In this episode of The MumSafe Movement Podcast Jen talks to Meli, MumSafe Trainer and owner of Phoenix for Women in Hornsby, NSW.

Meli’s journey into the fitness industry started with a career in dance, after this she became a master trainer for a fitness company in Argentina teaching around the world before moving  to Australia and becoming a mum.

Meli and I came into contact many years ago when she was very pregnant with her first baby and wanted to work with mums in the fitness industry; over time she completed Safe Return to Exercise and became a Body Beyond Baby affiliate before eventually taking over my Centennial Park location in 2018.  She is now one of our longest standing MumSafe Trainers and has since moved to another part of Sydney and built her business again from scratch with the benefit of experience and is doing incredibly well.

Meli’s mission is to help other mums to feel amazing again about themselves, she helps mums to see that pushing themselves really hard  to look the way they did before becoming a mum is not the only way

In this episode Jen & Meli discuss the following key topics:

To connect with Meli further you can find her here on Instagram and via her profile at mumsafemovement.com here 

At the start of this episode we mentioned our on-demand masterclass - Beyond her 6-week check-up which you can grab right here.

If you are a mum listening to this episode and want to work with a mum-specific Personal Trainer or in a mum group fitness environment head to www.mumsafemovement.com 

If you are a coach, trainer or instructor who would like to learn more about becoming a MumSafe Trainer visit www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer

And if you would like to complete your pre and postnatal certification go to https://www.preandpostnatalexerciseacademy.com/safereturntoexercise

Please direct all questions either to [email protected] or into Jen's DM's over on Instagram

In this episode of The MumSafe Movement Podcast Jen talks to Jacqui Somerville of Mum and Mini Fitness in Byford, Western Australia.

Jac is an exercise professional of over 15 years, FIFO wife and Mum of 2. She is a pre and postnatal personal trainer and MumSafe™️ coach and it's throughout her own journey of recovery from an eating disorder and now navigating the rollercoaster of Motherhood that she's realised her passion and purpose in life - offering the level of care, support and guidance that Mother's deserve in their health and fitness journeys.

Jac loves helping the mums of her community to find balance in it all, move in a way that nurtures them and ensure that they have the power to choose what is right every step of the way.

In this episode Jen & Jac discuss the following key topics:

To connect with Jacqui further you can find her here on Instagram and via her profile at mumsafemovement.com here 

At the start of this episode we mentioned our on-demand masterclass - Beyond her 6-week check-up which you can grab right here.

If you are a mum listening to this episode and want to work with a mum-specific Personal Trainer or in a mum group fitness environment head to www.mumsafemovement.com 

If you are a coach, trainer or instructor who would like to learn more about becoming a MumSafe Trainer visit www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer

And if you would like to complete your pre and postnatal certification go to https://www.preandpostnatalexerciseacademy.com/safereturntoexercise

Please direct all questions either to [email protected] or into Jen's DM's over on Instagram