Brandy Clark is a Grammy winning artist and songwriter, who has had her songs recorded by Sheryl Crow, Miranda Lambert, Kacey Musgraves, Billy Currington, Darius Rucker and more, and co-wrote the music for Tony-winning Broadway show Shucked with Shane McNally. We talk to Brandy about battling self doubt even when it reemerges after you've started seeing success, finding the right community that will validate you and inspire you, her experience with persistence as it took over a decade to have any large career breakthroughs as either a writer or an artist, writing for theater verses a record, being openly gay in the country world, and a whole lot more.

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• Brandy Clark
• Cyndi Forman
• Dave Brainard
• Shucked the Musical
• Ep 60 - Lori McKenna
• Jessie Jo Dillan
• Ep 43 - Gretchen Peters
• Ep 46 - Mary Chapin Carpenter
• Kieth Urban
• Dwight Yoakam
• Brandi Carlile
• Shangri-La Studio
• Shane McAnally
• K.d.lang
• Chely Wright
• Fancy Hagood

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Kevn Kinney is best known as the songwriter and singer of the Georgia rock band Drivin N Cryin, who has released 20+ records over the last almost 40 years, some independent and some on major labels, and toured with the likes of Neil Young and The Black Crowes, but Kevn also has numerous solo and side projects, with members of REM, Drive By Truckers, Warren Haynes, John Popper and more. We talk to Kevn about what he calls 'self healing rock and roll', showing up just as you are, unlearning what you've learned so you can be yourself, getting out of writers block by writing about writing, the changing landscape of how you hear music, and a whole lot more.

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• Kevn Kinney
• Drivin n’ Cryin
• Ep 73 - Edwin McCain
• The Black Crowes
• Doug LaValliere
• Peter Buck
• Ep 1 Aaron Lee Tasjan
• Ian McLagan
• The Replacements
• Bad Brains
• “Let’s Go Dancing”
• Andy Johns
• Anton Fier
• Ep 80 John Moreland
• Bruce Springsteen

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Nicki Bluhm is a singer-songwriter who has released multiple solo records and records with her former band The Gramblers, and has toured/performed/recorded with the likes of Phil Lesh, Aj Croce, Oliver Wood and Todd Snider. Jesse Noah Wilson is a bassist and producer, who currently plays in John Fogerty's band, is a former member of Band of Heathens, and has a studio in Nashville called Rancho Deluxe. We talk with both of them about the insights they've absorbed through working with legendary octogenarians, never losing the drive for the highest quality, tour boundaries, band relationships and band therapists, horses, and more.

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• Nicki Bluhm
• Jesse Noah Wilson
• Rancho Deluxe
• John Fogerty
• Dead & Company
• The Band
• Ronnie Hawkins
• Band of Heathens
• ‘Some Kind of Monster’
• Trent Reznor
• Phil Lesh
• Terrapin Crossroads
• Taras Prodaniuk
• Anders Osborne

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John Moreland is a celebrated singer songwriter who has steadily released 10+ records, mostly independently (through Thirty Tigers) and one with 4AD, receiving accolades from the New York Times, Fresh Air, and Pitchfork, and has tour with the likes of Dawes, Patty Griffin, and Jason Isbell. We talk with John about cutting back on his 'team' so he could return to being more hands-on, how having lots of middle men involved separated him from both his audience and his creativity, going back to a flip phone, jealousy as positive motivation, following your own timeline, and a whole lot more.

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• John Moreland
• James Blake
• Ep 7 - BJ Barham (American Aquarium)
• Ep 10 - Joe Pug
• Colter Wall
• Tyler Childers
• Benjamin Tod
• Ep 64 - Rhett Miller
• Chris Staples
• Zadie Smith on Ezra Klein
• Jonah Hill
• Gillian Welch
• Iris Dement
• Lucinda Williams

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The Lone Bellow have released a 5 records on various imprints of Sony Records and Dualtone Records, hitting the Billboard 200 and getting nominated for Americana Awards, worked with producers such as Dave Cobb, and Aaron Dessner of The National, supported Kacey Musgraves and appeared on Letterman, Kimmel, Conan amongst others. We talk to them about healthy conflict in the group, and intentional communication to keep things progressing, betting on themselves and moving away from both outside producers and record labels, leading your team rather than waiting on them, ownership of your art and a whole lot more.

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• The Lone Bellow
• Aaron Dessner
• Dave Cobb
• Charlie Peacock
• 'Sound Man' by Glyn Johns
• Jon Low
• Red Clay Strays
• Chris Stapleton
• Jay Hieron
• Dualtone
• The Civil Wars

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Tim Easton has released over 13 solo records, 4+ with his bands (Haynes Boys, Freelan Barons, Easton Stagger Phillips), appeared on records by Lucinda Williams, Cory Branan, Otis Gibbs and more, worked with EMI publishing and New West Records, busked through most of Europe, and worked with musicians such as Mike Campbell, Jim Keltner, Tift Merrit and Greg Leisz. We talk to Tim about remaining teachable, turning a passion for fishing in the Alaskan frontier into a solid touring scene, harmonizing to the ABC's in the car with his daughter, boundaries, dreaming out loud, and a whole lot more.

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• Tim Easton
• Folk Alliance
• David Sedaris
• Tom Mason
• Otis Gibbs
• Chappell Roan
• Billy Hart
• Tupac
• Biggie Smalls
• Ep 73 - Edwin McCain
• Wilco
• Fleetwood Mac
• Tom Petty
• Roger Miller

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Madi Diaz has released 10 records/EPs since 2007, has toured with Kacey Musgraves, Waxahatchee, My Morning Jacket, was a touring member of Harry Style's band, has performed on Fallon, Carson Daly, and countless festivals around the world, and is included on the Far Cry 5 soundtrack. We chat with Madi about resilience, staying focused and driven through a 'cacophony of almosts', putting yourself in the right environment to be creative and productive, songwriters as the backbone of the industry, gratitude for the ability to create in the moment, being pulled off stage after 1 song as a solo opener at Wembley Stadium, and a whole lot more.

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• Madi Diaz
• Harry Styles
• Kacey Musgraves
• Wembley Stadium
• The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon
• Waxahatchee
• Ep 7 - BJ Barham (American Aquarium)

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Amy Helm has released 4 solo records, 4 with her band Ollabelle, and appeared on 8 of her father Levon Helm's records, as well as records by artists as diverse as Rosanne Cash, William Bell, Tracy Bonham, Trans-Siberian Orchestra, and a handful of her stepfather Donald Fagan's solo and late Steely Dan records. We talk with Amy about taking care of yourself like an athlete, leaving your family behind to tour for long stretches of time, and music cooperatives, and many of the lessons Levon instilled in her, from being a blue collar worker-type musician to constantly trying to better yourself, your craft, and your knowledge.

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• Amy Helm
• Olabelle
• Ep 57 Larry Campbell + Teresa Williams
• Ep 73 Edwin McCain
• Levon Helm
• Steely Dan
• Rick Danko
• Levon Helm Studios
• Ep 12 Leyla McCalla
• Levon’s Midnight Ramble

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Nicole Atkins has released 6 records on labels such as Columbia, Razor & Tie, and Thirty Tigers, toured with Stevie Nicks, David Byrne, Fatboy Slim, Nick Cave, and Spoon, and has side project with Jim Sclavunos of Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds. We talk to Nicole about remaining child-like in your creativity, understanding that there are a lot of chances in life, catching the wind when and where it blows, enjoyment vs achievement, stepping up in service to others when you're stuck in your own head, keeping creative friends, and a whole lot more.

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• Nicole Atkins
• Wendy Parr
• Modern Elder Academy
• Chip Conley
• Binky Griptite
• Dap Kings
• April Centrone
• Ep 38 - John Doe
• Tore Johansson
• Razor & Tie
• Rick Rubin
• Adele
• EP 49 - Langhorne Slim
• Jim Sclavunous
• EP 27 - Mary Gauthier
• David Byrne - How Music Works
• Teddy Thompson
• Michael Kiwanuka
• EP 56 - Guster
• Stevie Nicks  
• Weyes Blood
• Linda Ronstadt: The Sound of My Voice doc
• Regina Spektor

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This is a special guest episode feature us on the Basic Folk Podcast, in conversation with hosts Cindy Howes and singer-songwriter Lizzie No, as well as author Kim Ruehl. We talk about all things ambition - the good and the ugly, and how we all navigate, accept, and work with it in our varied creative careers.

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• Basic Folk Podcast
• Lizzie No
• Cindy Howes
• Kim Ruehl
• Michaela Anne
• Aaron Shafer-Haiss

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