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The author, speaker, and farmer of Polyface Farms Joel Salatin joins me to talk about farming, the importance of experience, and the role of mastery over ourselves and our chosen discipline.

I left this conversation thinking about the personal changes we can make now to become experts in our chosen field and how that serves as a model for others that continues the change that already began. Eventually, that daily change becomes the future we cannot imagine for generations to come.

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My guest is the author, cheesemaker, and goatherd Gianaclis Caldwell of Pholia Farm Dairy. She joins me to talk about her latest book Holistic Goat Care from Chelsea Green Publishing.

In this conversation, Gianaclis demystifies the requirements and practices needed to begin keeping a herd of goats, whether in the city, suburbs or on a farm.

Find out more about her and her work at gianacliscaldwell.com, pholiafarm.com, and Holistic Goat Care at ChelseaGreen.com.

If you would like to meet Gianaclis she appears in September at the Mother Earth News Fair in Seven Springs, Pennsylvania, and in October at the Mother Earth News Fair in Topeka, Kansas. I’ll be at the Seven Springs again this year, I hope to see you there.

Also, this was the first of two conversations with Gianaclis, with the second scheduled as the last episode in September, when we talk about her first book, which builds on dairying, Mastering Cheesemaking.

Can you see how to integrate goats into your permaculture design? Are you already raising goats? What thoughts do you have after hearing this interview? Let me know. Leave a comment below or get in touch.

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From here the next interview, out on September 7, for Patreon supporters and for everyone else on my 38th birthday, September 10, is my interview with Joel Salatin.

Until then, spend each day creating the world you want to live in by taking care of Earth, yourself, and each other.

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How do we create the world with the social and economic structures we desire? How do we distill the problems that we see over and over again in that context so they are easy to understand, that lead solutions with a universal application?

During the conversation today we talk about the development of the book and some of his process on going from concept to published manuscript. We also touch on some of the challenging conversations that arise from looking broadly at we apply permaculture and these patterns to our communities, including some of the dialogues we should consider engaging in as neighbors or leaders. We close of course with Adam final thoughts, but not before he shares some of the patterns he developed, including Dynamic Pricing and Nurtured Networks.

You can find out more about Adam and his book, including upcoming events, at AdamBrock.me.

Do this quick introduction to Pattern Languages and the conversation with Adam make sense? Can you see using this kind of patterning and a pattern language in your own work? Will you be picking up a copy of Change Here Now to get a better understanding of these ideas and how to apply them?

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How do we intentionally live together in those communities? How do we create those communities? What training should we have if we already living in or planning to move into an intentional community?

In the end, this interview is about creating a cooperative culture so that together we can lean into one another and create the resilience required in order to live with abundance and joy, whatever the future may hold.

After listening to this interview, what are your thoughts on intentional communities? Do you live in one or are you considering it? Let me know by leaving a comment or getting in touch.

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