The Pomp Podcast

Shehzan Maredia is the Founder & CEO of Lava, a bitcoin-backed lending platform that allows users to borrow against their bitcoin without selling it. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. n this discussion, we cover why many bitcoin holders are borrowing against their BTC instead of selling it, how everyday workers have quietly built wealth by consistently saving in bitcoin, and why bitcoin-backed loans are increasingly being used to fund major purchases like homes. We also discuss stablecoins, global access to dollars, and the future of bitcoin-native financial services.

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• 0:00 - Intro
• 0:14 - Why people borrow against bitcoin instead of selling
• 3:55 - The risks of borrowing against bitcoin
• 6:10 - How Lava is different from their competitors
• 8:49 - Stablecoins & global dollar banking
• 12:22 - Challenges building a bitcoin company
• 13:16 - Why Lava is skeptical of AI coding tools
• 16:44 - Technologies Lava is bullish on
• 17:25 - Why most crypto projects are useless
• 20:04 - The gambling problem in modern finance
• 23:30 - Why bitcoin is built for savers

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we unpack the chaos hitting markets in 2026—from weak jobs data and Fed uncertainty to private credit cracks, AI-driven disruption, and the collapse of old economic playbooks. We also discuss software repricing, energy infrastructure, synthetic media, portfolio positioning, and why Jordi believes bitcoin is the truest AI trade in a world moving faster than ever.

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• 0:00 - Intro
• 0:53 - The current state of the U.S. economy
• 5:18 - Does the jobs report force the Fed to cut rates?
• 8:28 - How do the Iran, Venezuela, & Cuba situations end?
• 14:00 - Is the speed of military & government action changing?
• 19:12 - What is happening in private credit right now?
• 25:04 - Should investors run toward distressed private credit or avoid it?
• 28:47 What happens to a traditional 60/40 portfolio over the next decade?
• 32:27 -  Is Jordi still bullish on energy infrastructure & power demand?
• 35:37 - What Jordi’s AI setup looks like
• 43:13- How will AI-generated content & synthetic media change content creation?
• 49:50 - When will society normalize humans working alongside AI assistants?
• 52:20 - Is Jordi nervous or excited for rest of 2026?

Brian Dixon is the CEO of Off The Chain Capital. In this conversation, we discuss whether bitcoin acts as a risk-on tech asset or “insurance from war” during geopolitical conflict, the macro forces impacting the market, and why institutions are increasingly accumulating bitcoin. We also cover regulatory catalysts, bitcoin’s relationship with AI and traditional assets, and Brian’s value-investing approach to opportunities across the crypto ecosystem.

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• 0:00 - Intro
• 1:02 - Is war good or bad for bitcoin?
• 2:23 - How investors rebalance portfolios during conflict
• 8:48 - Institutional demand for bitcoin
• 12:47 - Bitcoin’s real-world use case in conflict zones
• 19:50 - Bitcoin vs stocks, gold, & AI
• 21:46 - What risks worry bitcoin investors?
• 25:52 - Bitcoin treasury companies & value investing
• 29:35 - Off The Chain Capital’s investment strategy
• 35:47 - Catalysts that could drive bitcoin higher

Natalie Brunell, Russell Okung, and Bill Miller IV join this panel recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation, we discuss bitcoin as a long-term adoption story, why it represents sovereignty and “freedom money” for many, and how athletes and traditional finance investors think about allocating to it. We also cover common criticisms, the education gap, bitcoin vs. gold, and why the panel believes we’re still early in a multi-decade trend.

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• 0:00 – Intro: Bitcoiners vs the World 
• 1:00 – Russell Okung on taking his salary in bitcoin
• 4:44 – Natalie Brunell’s bitcoin journey
• 7:25 – A traditional finance view on bitcoin
• 9:08 – The bitcoin mindset & sovereignty
• 14:45 – Bitcoin, hope, & the American dream
• 17:28 – What institutions think about bitcoin
• 19:32 – How to talk about bitcoin to different audiences

Phong Le is CEO of Strategy (formerly MicroStrategy), and David Bailey is CEO & Chairman of KindlyMD. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation, we discuss Strategy’s evolution from a bitcoin holding company to a leveraged treasury and now a digital credit platform, including the launch of its perpetual preferred product designed to offer bitcoin exposure with lower volatility and yield. We also cover capital markets strategy, competition among bitcoin treasury companies, macro impacts, and bitcoin’s continued integration into Wall Street and global finance.

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• 0:00 - Intro
• 0:25 - Strategy’s three phases of buying bitcoin
• 7:04 - Bitcoin’s graduation into Wall Street & traditional finance
• 10:11 - Macro economy & Fed policy
• 12:01 - Would they ever sell their bitcoin holdings?
• 15:26 - Bitcoin, government policy, & political adoption
• 19:52 - The responsibility of running a public bitcoin company
• 26:35 - The future of bitcoin treasury models & consolidation

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this episode, we break down the viral Citrini paper and whether AI disruption is being overstated or simply repriced by markets. We also discuss compressed software valuations, NVIDIA, shifting credit conditions, and why crypto and bitcoin could benefit in a world that increasingly needs speed, verification, and secure financial rails.

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For media inquiries, please contact: [email protected]

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• 0:00 – Intro
• 0:57 – The Citrini AI Paper debate
• 4:55 – Why software stocks are getting repriced
• 10:39 - Can AI replace SaaS companies?
• 15:53 – NVIDIA earnings & market regime shift
• 21:05 – Why crypto wins in the next cycle
• 29:37 – AI, government & autonomous weapons
• 36:39 – Deepfakes, spam & the need for crypto
• 41:29 – Survive vs Thrive: positioning for what’s next

Dan Tapiero is the Founder & CEO of 10T Holdings and 1RoundTable Partners, and Robbie Mitchnick is Head of Digital Assets at BlackRock. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation, we discuss the explosive growth of the spot Bitcoin ETF, how institutions now view Bitcoin within asset allocation, the impact of macro and Fed policy on crypto markets, and why traditional finance and digital assets are rapidly converging.

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• 0:00 - Intro
• 0:23 – Why the Bitcoin ETF was so successful & institutions enter
• 4:38 - Building beyond the Bitcoin ETF
• 8:03 - The bridge between TradFi & crypto
• 13:43 - How institutions think about allocations
• 17:40 - Macro, the Fed & liquidity impact on bitcoin
• 22:22 - Partnerships & building in digital assets

Chris Kline is the COO & Co-Founder of Bitcoin IRA. In this conversation, we discuss how wealthy investors use retirement accounts to reduce taxes, why volatility can create opportunities like Roth conversions, and the mistakes people make by holding assets in the wrong account. We also cover bitcoin in retirement portfolios, estate planning strategies, and how macro conditions like inflation, deflation, and Fed policy may impact long-term asset allocation.

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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates the buying and selling of your preferred crypto strategies. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com and start your automated trading strategy for free. No catch. No hidden fees. Just smarter trading.

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• 0:00 - Intro
• 1:55 – How to use the tax code to get in better position
• 2:51 – How 401(k)s replaced pensions (why it mattered) 
• 6:20 – Tax advantages of non-W2 income & retirement accounts 
• 9:08 – Long-term asset allocation & bitcoin in retirement 
• 13:12 – Using Roth conversions during bitcoin drawdowns 
• 21:10 – How taxes create massive long-term performance drag 
• 22:39 – Borrowing against bitcoin instead of selling 
• 28:29 – Inflation, deflation, & why government data lags reality 
• 33:15 – What macro headwinds mean for assets and portfolios 
• 36:38 – Bitcoin IRA tools, incentives, & next steps

Matt Cole is the CEO of Strive Asset Management, and Jeff Park is a Partner & Chief Investment Officer at ProCap Financial. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation, we break down why bitcoin’s volatility doesn’t change the long-term story, how institutions think about drawdowns, and what today’s Fed policy could mean for bitcoin and other risk assets. We also touch on digital credit, bitcoin-backed yield, and why volatility may actually be one of bitcoin’s biggest advantages for long-term investors.

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For media inquiries, please contact: [email protected]

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BitcoinIRA: Buy, sell, and swap 80+ cryptocurrencies in your retirement account. Take 3 minutes to open your account & get connected to a team of IRA specialists that will guide you through every step of the process. Go to https://bitcoinira.com/pomp/ to earn up to $1,000 in rewards.

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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates the buying and selling of your preferred crypto strategies. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com and start your automated trading strategy for free. No catch. No hidden fees. Just smarter trading.

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• 0:00 - Intro
• 0:15 - Bitcoin volatility & Kevin Warsh impact
• 4:19 - QE, deflation, & monetary regime change
• 12:09 - The rise of digital credit & why bear markets build institutional track records 
• 18:39 - Bitcoin treasury strategies & yield generation 

Bo Hines is the CEO of Tether US and a former White House crypto advisor who helped shape U.S. digital-asset policy during a critical moment for the industry. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation, we discuss Bo’s work in the White House on crypto policy, including the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve, the GENIUS Act, and the push for regulatory clarity. We also cover stablecoin adoption, why UX matters more than yield, how Tether is connecting global markets to U.S. capital, and why stablecoins could be the on-ramp to the next phase of bitcoin and financial infrastructure.

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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates the buying and selling of your preferred crypto strategies. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com and start your automated trading strategy for free. No catch. No hidden fees. Just smarter trading.

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• 0:00 - Intro
• 0:19 - White House crypto policy & Bo Hines’ role
• 2:52 - How important is the Clarity Act?
• 4:10 - Tether: scale, growth & global impact
• 10:49 - Stablecoin yield debate
• 12:37 - Financial access, wallets & the unbanked
• 14:19 - Tether’s relationship with Bitcoin
• 15:46 - Reserves, transparency & risk
• 17:24 - Interoperability & the future of stablecoins