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The Rise of Bitcoin Nations with Dan Held


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“Bitcoin hodlers across the world I think only number probably 100-200 million, which is awesome, that’s incredible that we’re in the hundreds of millions era of bitcoin hodlers, but I think the real game begins at a billion, and we’re getting close.”
— Dan Held

Location: Remotely
Date: Wednesday 4th August
Company: Kraken
Role: Growth Lead

El Salvador made history by becoming the first country to embrace Bitcoin as legal tender. This bold step to adopt Bitcoin empowers Salvadorians and utilises the network's powerful technology to build a better financial future for the country. 

While nation-states adopting Bitcoin has been talked about for a long time amongst bitcoiners, El Salvador found itself in a unique position. The country is a dollarised nation with an incredibly popular leader. As such, President Nayib Bukele passed the Bitcoin Law with ease, but the hard part is still to come.

On September 7th, all eyes will be on El Salvador. So will this bold move be a catalyst for prosperity? And will other nations follow suit?

In this interview, I talk to Dan Held, the Growth Lead at Kraken. We discuss hyperbitcoinisation, El Salvador adopting Bitcoin, living on a personal Bitcoin standard and the regulatory game theory of Bitcoin adoption. 

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