THE RUNNING EFFECT PODCAST

US Champion Josh Thompson makes his first-ever appearance on The Running Effect Podcast today! 

Josh holds PRs of 3:34.77 in the 1500m and 3:52.49 in the Mile. 

Josh has a remarkable story from going from JUCO to making World Championship teams for the US, as we discuss in this conversation.

Josh is a two-time World Championship 1500m finalist and has won US titles before.

As an Oklahoma State senior in 2017, he finished 6th in the NCAA Indoor Mile and 4th outdoors in the 1500.

In February 2016, Josh became the first Nevada native to run a Mile in under 4 minutes, clocking 3:58.33 indoors at the University of Washington's Husky Classic.

At Moapa Valley High School, he lead the cross country team to two Nevada state titles as well as winning two 3200m state titles.

In today's conversation, Josh takes me through his career, what it takes to go from "good to great," how he works on tactics, being a dad and how he balances fatherhood with his passion for running, his ambitions for the future, and so much more. 

This conversation is a masterclass in distance running. You won't want to miss the opportunity to learn and grow from Josh.

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Dylan Schubert shocked the running world when he crossed the finish line in Madison in 3rd. 

But he believed he was due for a breakthrough. 

Despite a rocky summer filled with injury, Dylan maintained faith and confidence in himself. 

Today's conversation chronicles the journey and story of Dylan.

Back in HS, Dylan was a 4:18, 9:09, 14:53 guy who qualified for NXN in both 2018 and 2019.

In college, despite not getting much recognition, Dylan has steadily been climbing to become one of the best runners in the country. He's a 3xXC All-American (11th, 24th, 3rd), an Outdoor NCAA qualifier in 5k, has run 3:58 in the Mile and 13:29 5k, is a Regional XC and 5k Champion, and an 8xConference Champion.

In today's conversation, Dylan walks me through his breakthrough performance, why he saw this coming, insights into his training, lessons from Coach Robert Gary, his ambitions for the future, his coaching business, and much more. 

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GRAHAM VOTED FOR PEDRO RETURNS TO THE PODCAST 

Last November, Graham won the 2023 NCAA title on the grass and two weeks later put an NCAA record to his name. This year Graham won an NCAA title on the grass going BACK-TO-BACK and joining an elite crew who have done so. The last four Americans to repeat as NCAA cross-country champion are Gerry Lindgren, Steve Prefontaine, Conner Mantz, and now Graham. Not bad company.

Graham is also an Olympian for the US in the 5k where he placed 9th in the World.

Graham just ran 12:59 in the 5k at BU to set a collegiate record and get the World-Standard. 

He announced yesterday that he turned professional with New Balance. 

In today's conversation, you can hear exclusive insights on the journey and 2024 season of Graham Blanks and all that went into it. Graham also discusses his thoughts on being loose and having fun within the sport, why he drank a beer the night before his collegiate record, the training he did leading into the 2024 NCAA XC Championship Meet, what he wants his legacy to be, and so much more. 

This one is an all-timer. Watch long enough to see JFKs and Oppenheimer's dorm. #iykyk 

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Today on the podcast is Grace Hartman! 

Grace most recently placed 5th at the 2024 NCAA XC Championships held last month in Madison, Wisconsin. Grace is also a 4xNCAA Track and Field All-American, a 1x NCAA Cross Country All-American, a 2024 5000M Track and Field Olympic Trials Competitor, the 2024 Cross Country ACC Individual Champion, and the 2024 ACC Scholar-Athlete of the Year.

Back in high school, Grace was the 2xGatorade Ohio Player of the Year (Cross Country 2020, 2021) and an 8xOHSAA (Ohio) State Champion. 

Grace has run 4:13 (1500m), 15:27 5k, 32:28 (10k), and 19:15 (6k on grass). 

In today's conversation, you can hear all about how Grace went from placing 63rd at the 2023 National Championships to 5th just one short year later, how she handles setbacks, her years dominating Ohio running in high school, how her ambitions have changed with her recent success, lessons from Coach Henes, and much more. 

I was in HS at the same time as Grace in OH and she was always a household name so it was such a fun time getting to chop it up with her and go through her success and mindsets.

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Fresh off of a 14:23 5k & wins at NXR & Foot Locker South, Keegan Smith joins the podcast to share his story. 

Keegan is heating up at just the right time. He's looking to complete the dirty double and be one of the first kids in history to win both NXN and Foot Locker. 

For background on Keegan, Keegan has an incredibly storied prep career, having won 21 National Titles and setting age-group national records before even entering high school. 

In high school, Keegan made Foot Locker as just a freshman, has since won Foot Locker South, NXR, and has been a Two time Gatorade "Player of the Year" in Tennessee. 

Keegan holds PRs of 1:51 in the 800m, 4:07 in the Mile, 8:54 in the 2-Mile, and 14:23 for 5k on grass.

Keegan announced this week that he signed a NIL deal with HOKA, which we discussed in depth in this conversation. 

Keegan is committed to run for Colorado this upcoming fall. 

In today's conversation, Keegan takes me through his journey, the ups and downs of it, being a childhood prodigy, how he's handled pressure over the years, his NIL with HOKA, his ambition for Foot Locker, and so much more.

Keegan is one of the most articulate high-schoolers I've ever met and shares a lot of deep, meaningful insights in this conversation today. 

Do not miss it.

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Today on the podcast is the elite duo of Parker Wolfe and Ethan Strand.

If you're not familiar with Parker or Ethan, they are two of the greatest (if not THE) runners in Tar Heel history.

Parker won the 2024 NCAA Outdoor Title in the 5k, taking down debately one of the most stacked fields of all time. Parker also placed 9th at the 2023 NCAA XC National Championships and 7th at the 2024 edition, and placed 2nd in both the 5k and 3k at the 2024 NCAA Indoor National Championships.  

Ethan has the school record in the Mile running a 3:54.62, is an ACC Champion, NCAA All-American in both track and XC, a finalist in the 1500m at the 2024 US Olympic Trials, and most recently placed 8th at the 2024 NCAA XC National Championships. 

Both are also NIL athletes for NIKE. 

In today's conversation, Parker and Ethan recap their XC season, including exclusive insights and stories from the ups and downs of the season. We also dive into their friendship and how that has evolved over the years, how they've become leaders within the UNC program, their ambition for their track season, their bet going into the BU 3k this weekend, and so much more. 

This conversation was both insightful and a ton of fun. I hope you will take the time to be enlightened by the wisdom of two of the best NCAA runners we've seen in quite some time.

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Today on the podcast is BYU's Creed Thompson who just played a pivotal role and helping his team to win a National title.

Creed placed 12th in the country, helping his team win their first NCAA XC Title in five years. 

Two years ago, Creed finished 35th overall at the NCAA Championships. 

Back in high school, Creed was named RunningLane First Team All-American and the Utah Gatorade BoysCross Country Player of the Year (2020). He was also the Utah 6A individual state champion (2019). That same year, he placed 18th at Footlocker Nationals. 

In today's conversation, you can hear insights from Creed's 12th place finish as well as insights and wisdom from the Championships winning BYU squad. Creed also shares his thoughts on the current landscape of the NCAA, international transfers, age limits, and more. Lastly, hear Creed's ambitions for the rest of his career and exclusive stories from his historic 2024 season. 

This was one of my favorite episodes I've recorded in a few months. Don't miss the opportunity to hear one-of-one insights from Creed.

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Today, I have the privilege of speaking with one of the greats, Shannon Rowbury. 

Shannon is one of the most decorated American middle-distance runners, known for her incredible range and longevity in the sport. A three-time Olympian (2008, 2012, 2016), Rowbury is a World Championship bronze medalist in the 1500m (2009) and has broken American records in both the 1500m and 5000m. Her personal bests showcase her versatility and speed: 2:00.03 in the 800m, 3:56.29 in the 1500m (former American record), 4:20.34 in the mile, 8:29.93 in the 3000m, 14:38.92 in the 5000m (former American record), and 31:03.29 in the 10,000m. Throughout her career, Shannon has been celebrated for her consistency, tactical prowess, and role as a pioneer for women in track and field. Her legacy continues to inspire the next generation of runners.

Shannon is one step away from being reallocated a 2012 Olympic 1500m bronze medal. Shannon has been moved up from fourth place to third place in World Athletics' results.

Shannon is also a mother of two boys, in the midst of writing a book, a Sports Broadcaster & In-Stadium Announcer, and so much more. 

In today's conversation, Shannon takes me through the biggest lessons and learnings from her wildly successful career, being upgraded to Bronze from the 2012 Olympics, and the emotions that come with that, what separates the good from the great, and much more.

This conversation was a true privilege and pleasure to have. So many good insights in this conversation, don't miss out on the chance to learn from one of the best.

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Today on the podcast is Ben Crane!

THE ZACH LEVET SPECIAL 

Today, I have the privilege of having a conversation with a man who pioneered running YouTube for years. He was one of my main inspirations to create content within the running space, and for that I'll be forever grateful.

If you know Zach, you love Zach. His content was second to none for many years. Many people (including myself) religiously watched him every Tuesday evening and were inspired in ways we hadn't been before through his gift of storytelling. He amassed over 100,000 subscribers on this journey. 

Zach not only hit that milestone, but dropped out of college (after running D1 for William & Mary), started multiple companies, lived out of a van, lived all across the US, and created throughout it all. 

As you'll hear in this conversation, there were many highs, lows, and everything in-between in this journey for him that he shares for the first time publically in today's conversation.

Today's conversation was an absolute gift, and I hope you take the time to listen to it. From hearing about the YouTube years in-depth to the logistics of his current role with Ryan Trahan, to his ambitions for triathlon and the future, you won't want to miss this one.

You can watch the episode both on our YouTube Channel (The Running Effect Podcast) or Spotify or listen on your platform of choice.

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