How does the physical footprint of a college campus evolve while its leaders balance the costs of new technologies, interest rates, construction, real estate, and deferred maintenance? The mechanical complexities of this ecosystem are only the first part of the conversation; what happens when you add the emotional ties your constituencies may have to the outcomes of your decisions?

This week on the show, we have two guests well-positioned to help us understand this campus balancing act. Liz Clark, NACUBO's VP for Policy and Research, sits down with Jed Shivers from the University of North Dakota and Steve Stabile from the New School in New York City. Together, they explore their approaches to some of the more challenging decisions they're making on their campuses today.