The Starting Messy Podcast

What if the key to better clients, higher retention, and less burnout behind the chair wasn’t more skill… but better alignment?

In this episode, Misty sits down with Kati Whitledge, founder of Maya and Host of Beyond The Technique Podcast, to talk about why who you work with matters just as much as what you do.

This conversation goes beyond marketing and tech. It’s about building a career you don’t want to escape from, attracting clients who respect you, and creating success that actually feels good.

If you’re a hairstylist or salon owner who’s tired of feeling drained by your schedule — this episode will hit home.

In this episode of the Starting Messy Podcast, Misty sits down with Aryn Detres, founder of The Left Brain Group, to unpack the overconsumption problem in the hair industry—and why more education isn’t always the answer.

If you’re a hairstylist or salon owner who’s taken all the classes, saved all the screenshots, and still feels stuck… this episode is for you.

In this episode, Misty Jayne joins Jodie Brown, the host of the Hairstylist Rising Podcast to break down one of the most misunderstood topics in the beauty industry: the real difference between coaching, mentoring, education, and consulting and why more information isn’t always the answer.

This conversation is for hairstylists and salon owners who feel stuck despite being talented, booked out, and knowledgeable. We talk about why overlearning can become a form of avoidance, how fear and identity play a bigger role than skill gaps, and when it’s time to stop searching for answers and start looking inward.

In this episode, we cover:

1. Why having all the strategy doesn’t guarantee action
2. The difference between a coach, mentor, educator, and consultant
3. How coaching helps uncover the real reasons you’re stuck
4. Why confidence comes from action, not more classes
5. How people-pleasing, fear of being seen, and overthinking show up for stylists
6. When to hire a coach vs when education is actually the right move
7. What “Starting Messy” really means (and why your mess isn’t the problem)

If you’ve ever thought, “What’s wrong with me? Why can’t I just do the thing?” this episode will feel like someone finally turned the lights on.

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In this episode, Misty Jayne breaks down why life coaching can be one of the most supportive tools for hairstylists and salon owners—especially those who are booked out, successful on paper, but feeling burned out, overwhelmed, or disconnected behind the scenes.

This isn’t about business strategy, marketing tactics, or raising your prices for the 47th time.

It’s about separating who you are from what you do, regulating your nervous system, setting boundaries without guilt, and understanding why money stress is often about much more than money.

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As the year wraps up, Misty gets honest about the work she’s been doing behind the scenes for years—and what she’s finally owning out loud in 2026.

In this episode, Misty shares why so many hairstylists and salon owners think they have a money problem… when in reality, money is often just the symptom. Underneath it?

Self-doubt. Overthinking. Fear of being seen. Fear of choosing the “wrong” path. And the exhaustion that comes from being the strong one everyone relies on.

After years of coaching stylists through financial growth, confidence blocks, perfectionism, and identity shifts, Misty opens up about why she’s stepping fully into life coaching—without hiding behind the money conversation anymore.

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Misty breaks down why those negative thoughts feel so real, even when they aren’t, and how your brain is literally wired to cling to familiar stories, not true ones.

This conversation is especially for hairstylists and salon owners who:

• Overthink every business decision
• Struggle with self-doubt, comparison, or imposter syndrome
• Feel stuck in negative mental loops that kill confidence and momentum

You’ll learn:

• Why positive thoughts feel “fake” at first (and why that’s normal)
• How repetition — not truth — creates belief
• How to rewire negative thought patterns without toxic positivity
• Simple ways to practice new thoughts so they actually stick
• Why your mindset directly impacts your confidence, money, and decisions

If you’ve ever felt like your own brain is working against you, this episode will help you understand what’s happening — and how to change it.

✨ Plus, Misty shares a free resource to help you get unstuck and out of your head.

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Misty sits down with Carly Zanoni @the.blonde.cronicles, the educator and stylist behind The Blonde Chronicles University, to talk about what hairstylists really want to know: how to start before you're ready, how to grow without losing yourself, and how to build something meaningful even when everything feels messy.

Carly shares how she launched a digital education platform during shutdowns, why “doing it scared” is so important, and how simplifying your color placement (and your self-talk) can change everything behind the chair.

If you're a hairstylist or salon owner navigating growth, perfectionism, burnout, or the pivot into education — this episode is like a permission slip and a pep talk wrapped together.

In this episode, Misty gets vulnerable about what it really looks like to build a career in education and coaching as a hairstylist — beyond what Instagram shows you. She breaks down the messy middle, the insecurities, the backwards steps, and the slow-burn confidence that has shaped her journey over the past six years.

Perfect for:

Hairstylists, salon owners, independent educators, new coaches in the beauty industry, and anyone trying to figure out if they’re “behind” (spoiler: you’re not).

As hairstylists and salon owners, clients trust us with more than their hair — they trust us with their stories, emotions, and vulnerability. But being a true “safe space” doesn’t just happen. It’s a skill. And for many of us? It's a skill we were not taught.

In today’s episode, Misty breaks down four powerful communication shifts that transformed her from a reactive communicator into the grounded, emotionally-intelligent coach and leader she is today. Whether you're navigating heavy conversations with clients, building stronger relationships with your team, or improving communication at home — these skills will change how you show up.

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In this conversation, Misty breaks down what consistency really looks like — not perfection, not hustle, not “do the most every day.” Real, sustainable consistency that builds trust with your clients, your audience, your business, and yourself.

Whether you’re behind the chair, growing your visibility, building a salon team, or trying to stick to your money plan… this episode gives you permission to show up imperfectly — and still create results.

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