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a16z General Partners Martin Casado and Anjney Midha join Erik Torenberg to unpack one of the most dramatic shifts in tech policy in recent memory: the move from “pause AI” to “win the AI race.”
They trace the evolution of U.S. AI policy—from executive orders that chilled innovation, to the recent AI Action Plan that puts scientific progress and open source at the center. The discussion covers how technologists were caught off guard, why open source was wrongly equated to nuclear risk, and what changed the narrative—including China's rapid progress.
The conversation also explores:
Whether you're a founder, policymaker, or just trying to make sense of AI's regulatory future, this episode breaks it all down.
Timecodes:
0:00 Introduction & Setting the Stage
0:39 The Shift in AI Regulation Discourse
2:10 Historical Context: Tech Waves & Policy
6:39 The Open Source Debate
13:39 The Chilling Effect & Global Competition
15:00 Changing Sentiments on Open Source
21:06 Open Source as Business Strategy
28:50 The AI Action Plan: Reflections & Critique
32:45 Alignment, Marginal Risk, and Policy
41:30 The Future of AI Regulation & Closing Thoughts
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a16z General Partners Martin Casado and Anjney Midha join Erik Torenberg to unpack one of the most dramatic shifts in tech policy in recent memory: the move from “pause AI” to “win the AI race.”
They trace the evolution of U.S. AI policy—from executive orders that chilled innovation, to the recent AI Action Plan that puts scientific progress and open source at the center. The discussion covers how technologists were caught off guard, why open source was wrongly equated to nuclear risk, and what changed the narrative—including China's rapid progress.
The conversation also explores:
Whether you're a founder, policymaker, or just trying to make sense of AI's regulatory future, this episode breaks it all down.
Timecodes:
0:00 Introduction & Setting the Stage
0:39 The Shift in AI Regulation Discourse
2:10 Historical Context: Tech Waves & Policy
6:39 The Open Source Debate
13:39 The Chilling Effect & Global Competition
15:00 Changing Sentiments on Open Source
21:06 Open Source as Business Strategy
28:50 The AI Action Plan: Reflections & Critique
32:45 Alignment, Marginal Risk, and Policy
41:30 The Future of AI Regulation & Closing Thoughts
Resources
Find Martin on X: https://x.com/martin_casado
Find Anjney on X: https://x.com/anjneymidha
Stay Updated:
Let us know what you think: https://ratethispodcast.com/a16z
Find a16z on Twitter: https://twitter.com/a16z
Find a16z on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/a16z
Subscribe on your favorite podcast app: https://a16z.simplecast.com/
Follow our host: https://x.com/eriktorenberg
Please note that the content here is for informational purposes only; should NOT be taken as legal, business, tax, or investment advice or be used to evaluate any investment or security; and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a16z fund. a16z and its affiliates may maintain investments in the companies discussed. For more details please see a16z.com/disclosures.
Stay Updated:
Find a16z on X
Find a16z on LinkedIn
Listen to the a16z Show on Spotify
Listen to the a16z Show on Apple Podcasts
Follow our host: https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg
Please note that the content here is for informational purposes only; should NOT be taken as legal, business, tax, or investment advice or be used to evaluate any investment or security; and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a16z fund. a16z and its affiliates may maintain investments in the companies discussed. For more details please see a16z.com/disclosures.
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