Diversity is an increasingly center-stage topic, in legislation, pop culture, and nearly every work environment. And there’s no place the effects of diversity are more far-reaching than in corporate board rooms.

On this episode, we sit down with Erin Lantz and Jonathan Nelson to discuss the facts on board diversity. Truly, there’s no one with more relevant perspectives better to discuss these issues than these two guests:

Erin Lantz is corporate director of TrueCar, and VP and GM of Mortgages for Zillow Group, and has an MBA from Harvard. She’s also part of what we call next-gen board directors (board members under 50).

Jonathan pulls his governance expertise from his 10+ years in governance research for a variety of firms. Currently, he is Head of Research at CGLytics, a corporate governance data and analytics platform that covers over 120K people across 5,000 companies. (He has an MA from George Mason.)