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The State of Illustration Report with Darren Di Lieto | Episode 65
What does the illustration industry really look like right now — beyond highlight reels, social media, and shiny success stories?
In this episode, I talk with Darren Di Lietto, founder of Hireillo and the author of the State of Illustration report. For more than a decade, Darren has been surveying illustrators around the world to better understand how we work, how we get paid, and how sustainable illustration actually is as a career.
We have an honest conversation about confidence, pricing, late payments, mental health, and the quiet pressures shaping illustrators’ lives today. We talk about who’s best positioned to thrive, where illustrators are struggling most, and why so many are being squeezed out early on in their careers.
I was surprised, and honestly a little bit depressed by the numbers in the report—but Darren helps me see some of the positive takeaways as well.
🙏 A huge thank-you to all paid supporters on Patreon — your support makes conversations like this possible.
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Website — https://www.tomfroese.com
Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/mrtomfroese
Daily Drawings — https://www.instagram.com/drawingisimportant
CREDITS
Music and cues by Mark Allan Falk — https://linktr.ee/semiathletic
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The State of Illustration Report with Darren Di Lieto | Episode 65
What does the illustration industry really look like right now — beyond highlight reels, social media, and shiny success stories?
In this episode, I talk with Darren Di Lietto, founder of Hireillo and the author of the State of Illustration report. For more than a decade, Darren has been surveying illustrators around the world to better understand how we work, how we get paid, and how sustainable illustration actually is as a career.
We have an honest conversation about confidence, pricing, late payments, mental health, and the quiet pressures shaping illustrators’ lives today. We talk about who’s best positioned to thrive, where illustrators are struggling most, and why so many are being squeezed out early on in their careers.
I was surprised, and honestly a little bit depressed by the numbers in the report—but Darren helps me see some of the positive takeaways as well.
🙏 A huge thank-you to all paid supporters on Patreon — your support makes conversations like this possible.
IN THIS EPISODE
SHOW LINKS
From Darren
From Tom
SUPPORT THE PODCAST
You can support Thoughts on Illustration by:
FIND ME ELSEWHERE
Website — https://www.tomfroese.com
Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/mrtomfroese
Daily Drawings — https://www.instagram.com/drawingisimportant
CREDITS
Music and cues by Mark Allan Falk — https://linktr.ee/semiathletic

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