The Trial: USA

The Trial: USA

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  • Top Cop Who Revamped Gilgo Beach 'Demon' Probe Reflects On Rex Heurmann And Cracking The Case

    “A demon that walks among us.”


    That’s what former Suffolk County Police Commissioner Rodney Harrison said about Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heurmann during an announcement of the elusive suspect’s arrest in 2023.


    Harrison worked on numerous headline-grabbing investigations over a 30-year career in the NYPD as an investigator and top executive but he may best be known for orchestrating the law enforcement task force that finally led to Heurmann’s capture.


    In a Long Island courtroom last week, Heurmann received multiple life sentences without the option of parole after pleading guilty in April. There was no apology to offer the still-shaken family members who finally had a chance to share their accounts of devastation and torment with Heurmann.


    Harrison joins The Trial: USA this week with a behind-the-scenes account of the effort to close one of New York’s most memorable crime investigations. He recently authored “The Commissioner: From Street Cop to Top Cop in the NYPD, and the Inside Story of the Hunt for the Gilgo Beach Serial Killer.” 



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    52 min
  • Karmelo Anthony Trial Deep-Dive: Part 2

    Karmelo Anthony’s lethal force against Austin Metcalf during a 2025 teenage track meet scuffle was not justified.  


    That was the finding of the Texas jury in Anthony’s case last week. The same panel sentenced the 19-year-old to 35 years in prison for murder.


    Yet the conviction remains a topic of intense interest and controversy. It has been framed as a racial injustice by Anthony’s supporters despite testimony from a number of witnesses that he was not in danger. 

    Metcalf, 17, another local athlete, died for nothing and the verdict was deserved, others say.


    In this episode, James Stainton, a district attorney from another county in the greater Dallas area, breaks down the law and how it applies.   


    Stainton explains to The Trial: USA’s Kayla Brantley that the jury followed the law. 


    Tune in for this in-depth analysis on Anthony’s case. 

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    46 min
  • Karmelo Anthony Trial Deep-Dive: Part 1

    Karmelo Anthony’s murder trial happened in Texas but the case has triggered strong reactions from observers around the country. 


    The 19-year-old’s legal team argued self-defense but witnesses told the jury that Anthony was never in danger. He was simply being asked to leave a private area belonging to a rival high school’s track squad.


    Daily Mail’s Texas Bureau Chief MaryAnn Martinez joins us this week to break down the evidence and dispel misinformation that has been amplified on social media. Unsubstantiated theories have circulated since April 2025, when 17-year-old Austin Metcalf was killed. He died in the arms of his twin brother.


    Anthony was found guilty of murder at his trial last week and was sentenced to 35 years in prison. The verdict has renewed accusations of racism from his supporters even as the jury rejected his justification defense. 


    Tune into Martinez’s conversation with Kayla Brantley to learn what the evidence at trial revealed and what claims are not supported by fact.



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    57 min
  • ‘Cults’ and Cold Cases: A 2026 CrimeCon Recap

    Cartisha Morgan came to CrimeCon in the hopes of bringing attention to the case of her missing daughter and young grandchild, a toddler when she vanished. Morgan believes her daughter Ma’Kayla Wickerson bought into the teachings of a group that police have called a cult before disappearing with the tot from their Missouri home. 


    Another family was at the event to ask to promote their campaign for answers. Christopher Abeyta, a 7-month-old, was stolen from his crib in Colorado Springs nearly 40 years ago. His family, including a niece he never met, wants police to focus on a woman who they believe may have gotten away with the crime. They hope that person can explain what happened to baby Christopher. 


    The episode this week brings you a roundup of these stories and others from the Crime Desk team at CrimeCon 2026 in Las Vegas. 


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    37 min
  • Kaylee Goncalves’s Parents On Treating Killers 'Like The Animals That They Are'

    We share in this episode an in-depth conversation with the parents of Kaylee Concalves at CrimeCon 2026 in Las Vegas where they promoted the “Murder Has a Name” foundation started in their daughter’s honor to help other families find answers with the help of advanced DNA technology.   


    Steve and Kristi Goncalves also discussed their family’s raw anger at killer Bryan Kohberger’s sentencing and the risk they decided to take to speak their minds unfiltered. 

    ‘These guys need to be treated like the animals that they are,’ Steve Goncalves told the Mail. ‘If you're gonna behave like an animal, treat them like an animal.’ 


    The couple also discusses threats they've faced from supporters of Kohberger and the twisted logic his fans have used to challenge investigative facts, even though his criminal case resulted in Kohberger’s guilty plea last year. 


    Kohberger was sentenced to four consecutive life sentences without parole for the 2022 slayings. Kaylee’s parents say he should have received nothing less than capital punishment.  


    Join us for Daily Mail US Crime Correspondent Rachel Sharp’s full interview with the Goncalves parents.  


    Murder Has a Name: https://www.murderhasaname.com/


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    37 min
  • Prosecutor Speaks on Death Sentence for 7-year-old Athena Strand’s Killer

    James Stainton spent years working to bring Tanner Horner to justice for abusing and killing a beloved child before callously discarding her remains in rural Texas on November 30, 2022.


    On this episode, Stainton shares with The Trial: USA’s Kayla Brantley what it was like to shoulder the task of seeking justice for Athena Strand and her devastated family. He also discusses capital punishment and why, as he argued at trial, Horner's actions are why the death penalty exists.


    Horner was sentenced to execution by lethal injection on May 5 after a five-week jury trial held to determine his fate. He’d previously pleaded guilty to murder and kidnapping the first-grader, who was abducted from her family’s sprawling property in Paradise, Texas.


    Athena’s death devastated her family, friends and community. She inspired a law that enables law enforcement to employ quicker responses to missing children calls by issuing what has become known as an “Athena Alert.” Her family also started a charity in her honor in an effort to share the little girl’s legacy.

    Athena’s Army: https://asarmy.com/



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    50 min
  • Murdaugh Wife And Son Murder Verdict Tossed Out: What Went Wrong And What’s Coming

    The latest development in the Alex Murdaugh story was a ruling by the highest court in South Carolina reversing his conviction for the 2022 murder of his wife and son.

    An elected county court clerk was accused of tampering with the jury process by hinting to sitting panelists that Murdaugh was guilty — a stunning betrayal of the public’s trust that the court said denied him a fair trial.


    The clerk, Rebecca Hill, faced her own investigation and resigned.


    In this episode, legal expert and retired chief judge of the South Carolina Court of Appeals James Lockemy discusses the Murdaugh reversal with The Trial: USA’s Kayla Brantley.


    The episode breaks down Hill’s flagrant conduct which included plans for a behind-the-scenes book during the trial.


    Evidence presented in post-trial proceedings examined how Hill hoped to profit from the publication, which was released six months after the trial but later pulled from circulation.


    Hill pleaded guilty in December to obstruction of justice and perjury for releasing graphic, sealed crime scene photos to the media and lying about it under oath at a 2024 hearing. The ex-official also admitted to improperly awarding herself cash bonuses.


    Murdaugh’s increasingly complicated prosecution is now headed toward a retrial. He could also now face the possibility of a death sentence if convicted again.


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    39 min
  • Killer Is Sentenced To Lethal Injection In Texas For Killing First-Grader

    Justice for a joyful little girl who was abducted outside her rural Texas home and murdered by a stranger driving a delivery truck.

    MaryAnn Martinez, the Daily Mail’s Texas bureau chief, was in the courtroom as a jury sealed the fate of 7-year-old Athena Strand’s killer, Tanner Horner.

    Athena, a first-grader with an affinity for the outdoors and the color pink, was abused and tortured by Horner, a FedEx driver, before he killed her and callously discarded her tiny frame in a nearby creek on Nov. 30, 2022.

    A frantic, multi-day search for Athena ensued. The child’s death traumatized her rural community.

    Horner pleaded guilty to murder and kidnapping in April but a jury still had to determine his fate, which in Texas included the possibility of the death penalty. After a five-week trial,

    Athena’s family watched as the panel found that Horner should be executed by lethal injection.

    On this episode, Martinez discusses the case with host Kayla Brantley and takes us inside the courtroom for the dramatic last moments of the proceeding.

    We also learn what is expected to happen next as Horner waits on death row.


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    32 min
  • Lively vs. Baldoni: The Real Reason the Feuding Stars Settled

    After two years of legal mudslinging between “Gossip Girl” actress Blake Lively and actor-director Justin Baldoni, a civil trial was set to unfold in New York.


    The “It Ends With Us” co-stars instead capped their bitter dispute with a settlement deal that ended an ugly and costly two-year public ordeal that battered their reputations.


    The Trial: USA this week examines the history of the litigation and explains why a last-minute settlement was a likely outcome. Kayla Brantley interviews entertainment and sports attorney Thomas H. Herndon Jr. about the legal drama.


    In this episode, Herndon Jr. breaks down the legal strategies at play and weighs in on what a trial may have looked like.



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    17 min
  • I Was At The White House Dinner With Kash Patel - Then The Shooting Started

    Shots rang out at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner — just yards from the President of the United States.


    At one table sat FBI Director Kash Patel.


    On this episode of The Trial: USA, Kayla Brantley and Daily Mail Associate Editor Wills take you inside the room as the shooting unfolded — including what happened at their table in the moments the chaos began.


    They walk through the night step by step — from the first sounds of gunfire, to the Secret Service response, to the confusion inside one of Washington’s most high-profile events.


    We also break down the case against Cole Tomas Allen, who has now appeared in court facing federal charges including the attempted assassination of President Donald Trump.


    What do we know about his motive?


    What was revealed in court?


    And how did he get so close?


    This is what it was like inside the room.



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    27 min

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Launched in the UK in 2022, The Trial is an award-winning, chart-topping podcast that goes behind the headlines of some of the biggest trials in the world. We take you into the courtroom, bringing…

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