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0:00 Teaser 1:55 Trump on drug cartels: “We’re gonna kill them. They’re gonna be like, dead.” 4:31 Venezuela: Regime change disguised as drug war 5:44 Marco Rubio holds all the foreign policy power 8:24 Trump Doctrine candidate #1: “Jump at the chance to use force” 11:37 Trump Doctrine candidate #2: Monroe 2.0 17:36 Roy Cohn’s philosophy: “It is a nation of men, not laws” 22:22 Bob: There’s value in hypocrisy 30:02 Trump is paving the way for a more competent tyrant 31:46 Could Trump actually be good for the world? 36:37 Trump the comedian 42:17 Heading to Overtime: Bob’s mysterious invitation-only conference

Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Nikita Petrov (https://psychopolitica.substack.com). Recorded October 27, 2025.

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Overtime titles:

How to network when you hate networking.The Non-Zero mission and Peter Thiel’s “Antichrist.”What dreams are for.Nikita’s dream about the nature of modern media.

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