In today’s episode of the Zeitcast Jonathan is joined by Producer Joel Everson as they sit down with Marlena Graves to discuss her new book, The Way Up Is Down. In this conversation we hear Marlena’s story from her childhood love for silence and creation to her adulthood appreciation of a more ecumenical faith, this episode is full of beauty and truth. We know you will enjoy it!

Marlena received her M.Div. from Northeastern Seminary in Rochester, New York and his pursuing her PhD in American Culture Studies at Bowling Green State University in Bowling Green, OH where she is researching the influence American culture has on Evangelicals’ view of immigration, race, and poverty. Since 2015, she has been an adjunct professor at Winebrenner Seminary in the areas of discipleship and spiritual formation. She has written for a wide variety of venues like Christianity Today’s Her.meneutics Blog (now CT Women),Womenleaders.com, and Our Daily Bread. Marlena is a former member and board member of the Redbud Writers Guild. Currently she is a board member of Evangelicals 4 Justice, works in partnership with Freedom Road, and also belongs to INK: A Creative Collective. As a Puerto-Rican influenced by many streams of the faith, she feels as if she dwells on the borderlands of Evangelicalism.

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Edited and produced by Joel Everson