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Fleet has an incredible story and philosophy to share. At the age of 35, he was sentenced to 30 years in prison. After getting over the initial devastation, Fleet used his sentence as an opportunity to take radical responsibility for every area of his life. Since then, he has gone on to earn a PhD, launch multiple initiatives including: the Heart Mind Institute, the Prison Dharma Network, the National Prison Hospice Association, and train people all over the world in his unique approach to mindfulness and emotional intelligence.

In this conversation, you’ll learn:

— What basic goodness is and how understanding this is central to wellbeing

— How Fleet transformed his time behind bars into invaluable learning experiences that ultimately helped him to contribute more to the world

— How Mindfulness-Based Emotional Intelligence can aid recovery

— The role that a basic service orientation can have in recovery and flourishing in life.

And more.

You can learn more about Fleet’s work by going to: https://www.fleetmaull.com and check out his latest summits at https://www.heartmind.co.

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Fleet Maull, PhD, CMT-P, is the founder and CEO of Heart Mind Institute, Windhorse Seminars & Consulting and also a senior partner and principal in New Line Consulting. He is an IMTA certified professional mindfulness teacher and an Acharya (senior meditation teacher) in the Tibetan tradition and Roshi (Zen master) in the international Zen Peacemaker Community.

Fleet has written many articles and has given numerous interviews on a variety of mindfulness and leadership related topics in Inc Magazine, Lion’s Roar, Tricycle, Tikkun, and Turning Wheel. He is a frequent contributor to The Huffington Post and Forbes Magazine and made guest appearances on NPR’s Fresh Air program and the national syndicated E-Town.

He is the author of Radical Responsibility: How to Move Beyond Blame, Fearlessly Live Your Highest Purpose and Become an Unstoppable Force for Good and Dharma In Hell, the Prison Writings of Fleet Maull. Fleet leads prison programs, meditation retreats, chaplaincy and hospice trainings, leadership trainings, bearing witness retreats and transformational seminars throughout the world.

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4 Books Dr Fleet Recommends Every Therapist Should Read:

— The Craving Mind: From Cigarettes to Smartphones to Love - Why We Get Hooked and How We Can Break Bad Habits — Judson Brewer - https://amzn.to/3ZmgLIT

— Refuge Recovery: A Buddhist Path to Recovering from Addiction — Noah Levine - https://amzn.to/3ZmrUJH

— The Essential Guidebook to Mindfulness in Recovery — John Bruna - https://amzn.to/3Lq6K7L

— Radical Responsibility: How to Move Beyond Blame, Fearlessly Live Our Highest Purpose, and Become an Unstoppable Force for Good — Fleet Maull, PhD - https://amzn.to/3EGDqpX

Dr. Marcia Reynolds is a pioneer in the field of coaching and the author of “Coach the Person Not the Problem” and Breakthrough Coaching.

In this conversation, we explore:

— Why coaches are best understood as “external thought disruptors”

— How to get the balance between structure and flow right in the coaching relationship

— The importance of clarifying the client’s desired outcome with precision and how best to do this

— The two essential transformations every coach must go through.

And more.

You can learn more about Dr. Reynolds' books, programs, and writing at https://covisioning.com.

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Dr. Marcia Reynolds, Master Certified Coach and president of Covisioning LLC, is a master of teaching others how to engage in powerful conversations that connect, influence, and activate change, even when emotions are strong. From government agencies and large multi-national companies, to coaching schools in Europe, Asia, the Middle East, and across North America, she’s been hired by organizations around the globe, not just because of her highly engaging presentations but because of her ability to inspire people to change minds and behavior. She has provided coaching and training in 47 countries, to thousands coaches and leaders online, is on faculty for coaching schools in the US, Asia, and Eastern Europe.

Her foundational and mastery Breakthrough Coaching programs on the Coaching.com platform provide advanced skills and community for coaches around the world. She was recently awarded the Coaching Impact Award for Emerging Organizations for working with her client AEON Vietnam to transform their culture and accelerate their success with coaching even through the pandemic, an amazing feat for a retail corporation! As a pioneer in the coaching profession, she was the 5th global president of the International Coaching Federation and is recognized in the ICF Circle of Distinction for her contributions to the world-wide coaching community. She is recognized as a Coaches50 top leadership coach and has been in the top 10 of coaches for Global Gurus for many years.

Prior to coaching, Marcia ran training departments for two global companies. She designed the culture change programs for a global semiconductor manufacturing company facing bankruptcy. Within three years, the company turned around and became the #1 revenue producing stock market success with its IPO in 1993. Excerpts from her 5 books including her international bestseller, Coach the Person, Not the Problem and her latest book, Breakthrough Coaching, have appeared in many places including Fast Company, Psychology Today, and The Wall Street Journal. Her education includes a doctorate in Organizational Psychology and two master’s degrees in Communication and Adult Learning/ Instructional Design.

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Interview Links:

— Dr. Reynold’s website - https://covisioning.com

— Dr Reynold's books - https://amzn.to/45MAGFI

This episode features a conversation between Jeremy Lent and Professor Peter Hawkins. This discussion is part of a series that Peter will be doing with some of the major thinkers and writers of our time, focusing on the necessary evolution of human consciousness, for humans to be future-fit to live on this planet in a way that makes a net-positive contribution to the wider ecology. The series is being done jointly with: The Weekend University and the Renewal Foundation.

Jeremy Lent is an author and speaker whose work explores how humans create meaning and how our underlying worldviews shape culture, values, and history. His books “The Patterning Instinct” and “The Web of Meaning” bring together insights from neuroscience, history, systems thinking, and traditional wisdom to explore humanity’s relationship with nature and the deeper patterns connecting life. His more recent work focuses on the idea of an ecological civilization and pathways toward a more interconnected, life-affirming future.

Peter is Emeritus Professor of Leadership at Henley Business School, founder of the Academy of Executive Coaching, and a leading authority on systemic leadership, coaching, and organizational transformation. His work integrates insights from psychology, systems thinking, ecology, and philosophy to help leaders navigate an increasingly complex world. His most recent book was: “Beauty in Leadership and Coaching”, which was published by Routeledge in 2025.

In this conversation, they explore:

— Why our current systems are functioning as designed, and why that is the problem

— How the scientific revolution created a worldview based on separation that now shapes modern life

— What “decolonising our minds” means, and why it matters for those born into privilege

— The concept of fractal flourishing and why systems cannot thrive without serving the larger systems they depend on

— How “commoning” and system change can shift our identity, relationships, and the way we organise

And more.

You can learn more about Jeremy's work at jeremylent.com and Peter's work at renewalassociates.co.uk.

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Interview Links:

— Prof. Hawkins’ website - https://renewalassociates.co.uk

— Jeremy’s website: https://www.jeremylent.com

— Prof. Hawkins' books: https://link.amazon/B0cQ4Mp8E

— Jeremy's book: https://link.amazon/B02CHDkKP

A.N. Whitehead's Process Philosophy — Matt Segall & Peter Hawkins by Insights for Evolving Consciousness.

Ann and Sue are therapists, podcasters, and co-authors of the newly published book Secure Relating. Known for their work on modern attachment theory, Ann and Sue offer a fresh perspective on the process of building and maintaining secure relationships, moving beyond the traditional focus on attachment categories to a more fluid and dynamic approach.

Expect to learn:

— The thinking behind focusing on "secure relating" instead of "secure attachment."

— What it means to "earn security" and how this is an ongoing process in relationships.

— Why attachment should be viewed as a spectrum rather than fixed categories, and the benefits of this perspective.

— How to become aware of your own attachment map

— Practical strategies for deepening security in relationships and applying secure relating to communities.

And more.

You can learn more about Ann and Sue’s work at https://therapistuncensored.com.

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Sue Marriott, LCSW,CGP and Ann Kelley, PhD are the co-founders and co-hosts of Therapist Uncensored, a top 10 Apple Social Science podcast that has over 10 million downloads to date. Through their podcast, writing, and training, they bring their love and expertise of modern attachment and the relational sciences to audiences both nationally and internationally. Their book, Secure Relating: Holding Your Own in an Insecure World (HarperCollins, 2024) has received critical acclaim for being a cutting-edge, essential read on attachment security and neuroscience. Sue and Ann are married, are out and proud parents of 3 now adult children and currently reside in Austin, Texas.

Ann Kelley, PhD

Ann is a licensed psychologist who specializes in couples therapy from an integrative, attachment-based relational framework. In her former clinical role, Dr. Kelley served as the director of clinical treatment for a state-wide juvenile justice facility, where she supervised comprehensive interventions centered on trauma work and rehabilitation. She served as expert witness for courts and was often the agency spokesperson for national and international media outlets as a key resource regarding treatment of early trauma as a divergence to incarceration. In addition to clinical work and podcasts, she provides workshops and training in interpersonal neurobiology, modern attachment and couples.

Sue Marriott, LCSW, CGP

Sue is a licensed clinical social worker who has been in private practice for over 30 years. Her study groups and workshops demonstrate her on-going passion for linking research to real-world applications. Sue has served on several local and national boards that support mental health in communities. She is co-founder and former President of Austin IN (interpersonal neurobiology) Connection and served on the Board of GAINS, the Global Association of Interpersonal Neurobiology Studies and is a current Emeritus Board member of the nationally-based, Family Equality Council, to name a few. She provides workshops and training related interpersonal neurobiology, modern attachment, and group psychotherapy.

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Interview Links:

— Ann and Sue’s website - https://therapistuncensored.com

3 Books Sue Marriott Recommends Every Therapist Should Read:

— Shadow of the Tsunami — Philip Bromberg - https://amzn.to/3Mbr4tP

— Decolonizing Therapy — Jennifer Mullan - https://amzn.to/3WOwWxU

— Setting Boundaries That Stick — Juliane Taylor Shore LMFT - https://amzn.to/3Xdfu7C

4 Books Ann Kelley Recommends Every Therapist Should Read:

— Attachment Disturbances in Adults: Treatment for Comprehensive Repair — Daniel Brown and David Elliott - https://amzn.to/3XcmSQD

— Hold Me Tight: Your Guide to the Most Successful Approach to Building Loving Relationships — Sue Johnson - https://amzn.to/3MfJuJS

— The Neuroscience of Human Relationships: Attachment and the Developing Social Brain — Louis Cozolino - https://amzn.to/3AGCfIa

— Secure Relating: Holding Your Own in an Insecure World — Sue Marriott and Ann Kelley - https://amzn.to/46XvzBx

In this episode, Niall speaks with Jayson Gaignard, founder of Mastermind Talks and author of the newly released book “Community Made”.

Jayson has built one of the world’s most respected entrepreneurial communities, bringing together thousands of high-performing entrepreneurs and thought leaders. Over the past decade, he has focused on what creates meaningful relationships and lasting trust.

In this conversation, they explore:

— Why no one is truly self-made and how relationships compound over time

— How he sold 21,000 copies of his book without a social media following or email list

— The strategies he uses to deepen relationships and build trust

— Why asking for help is a skill that can be developed

You can learn more about Jayson's work at https://www.jaysongaignard.com

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A veteran entrepreneur, Jayson Gaignard is the founder of a top rated business podcast on iTunes, and runs one of the world's most exclusive events for entrepreneurs. His invite-only event brings together brilliant minds like multiple NYT Best Selling Author Tim Ferriss, fashion titan Marc Ecko, biohacker Dave Asprey, and many more...

His work has been featured by influential publications like Forbes, Life Hacker, and Business Insider.

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Jayson’s website: https://www.jaysongaignard.com/

Jayson’s newly published book: https://amzn.to/4dQoZBs

In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Haesun Moon— a coach, communication scientist, and author of the bestselling book: Coaching A to Z.

A pioneer in the field of solution-focused dialogue, Dr. Moon is widely known for her accessible coaching tools, especially the Dialogical Orientation Quadrant (DOQ). In 2023, she was shortlisted as one of the top 8 coaches in the world by Thinkers 50.

In this conversation, we explore:

— Why not all narratives are curative

— How Haesun’s Dialogical Orientation Quadrant can transform your coaching practice and any conversation

— Why asking “How can I help you?” may be the worst way to start a session

— The power of scaling questions—and how to use them well

— Why it’s vital to preserve the client’s language—and how empathy is often lost through interpretation.

And more.

You can explore Haesun’s work and training programs at https://instituteofcoaching.org

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Haesun Moon, Ph.D., based in Toronto, is a Communication Scientist, Adult Educator, and Executive Director at the Canadian Centre for Brief Coaching. She developed the Dialogic Orientation Quadrant (DOQ) and teaches at the University of Toronto and Harvard-affiliated Institute of Coaching and is an acclaimed author and international speaker.

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Interview Link:

— Dr. Moon’s website - https://instituteofcoaching.org

Dr. Robert Kegan and Dr. Lisa Lahey are pioneering developmental psychologists, Harvard faculty members, and co-creators of the Immunity to Change approach. Their groundbreaking work bridges adult development theory with practical methods for sustainable behavioral change in individuals, teams, and organizations.

In this conversation, we explore:

— How the Immunity to Change approach differs from conventional change methods by addressing the hidden mindsets that prevent lasting transformation

— Why our resistance to change is actually an intelligent immune system protecting us from perceived dangers

— The four-column process that reveals the hidden commitments and assumptions keeping us stuck

— How this approach can be applied beyond individual coaching to transform teams and organizations.

And more.

You can learn more about their work, books, and coach certification programs at https://mindsatwork.com.

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Robert Kegan and Lisa Lahey are Harvard-based psychologists and co-founders of Minds at Work, best known for their Immunity to Change framework. Their research and writing, including An Everyone Culture and How the Way We Talk Can Change the Way We Work, help people and organizations uncover hidden commitments that block growth.

You can learn more about their work at https://mindsatwork.com.

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Interview Links:

— Dr. Kegan and Dr. Lahey’s website: https://mindsatwork.com

— Dr. Kegan and Dr. Lahey’s book: https://amzn.to/44wteNV

Professor Jeremy Holmes — a clinician, author, leading Attachment expert and four time speaker at The Weekend University.

In this interview, we discuss the fascinating science of attachment theory, and how it can be applied to enhance therapeutic practice, including:

— The “dodo bird” verdict in psychotherapy

— The concept of the secure base and the extent to which it remains flexible throughout the lifespan

— How the relationship between caregivers and infants in early life influences attachment styles in later years.

And more.

You can learn more about Professor Holmes’ work and books by going to: bit.ly/jh-books

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Professor Jeremy Holmes is a clinician, author, leading Attachment expert, and three-time speaker at The Weekend University.

For 35 years, he was Consultant Psychiatrist/Medical Psychotherapist at University College London (UCL) and then in North Devon, UK, and Chair of the Psychotherapy Faculty of the Royal College of Psychiatrists 1998-2002.

He is visiting Professor at the University of Exeter, and lectures nationally and internationally. In addition to 200+ peer-reviewed papers and chapters in the field of psychoanalysis and attachment theory, his books include John Bowlby and Attachment Theory, Exploring In Security, Attachment in Therapeutic Practice, and most recently: “The Brain has a Mind of Its Own”.

He was the recipient of the Bowlby-Ainsworth Founders Award 2009.

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3 Books Professor Jeremy Holmes Recommends Every Therapist Should Read:

— Attachment in Adults - Mario Mikulincer and Phillip Shaver - https://amzn.to/3VwsZ1G

— The Role of Mentalizing and Epistemic Trust in the Therapeutic Relationship - Peter Fonagy and Elizabeth Allison - https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2014-14624-001

— Attachment in Therapeutic Practice - Prof. Jeremy Holmes and Arietta Slade - https://amzn.to/3IT0zYw

Dr. Gay Hendricks is a psychologist, relationship expert, and the best selling author of several books, including the "The Big Leap." With decades of experience helping people transform their lives, Dr. Hendricks has pioneered concepts like the "Zone of Genius" and the "Upper Limit Problem" that have revolutionized how we think about personal growth and fulfillment.

In this conversation, we explore:

— How setting "deathbed goals" at age 34 transformed Dr. Hendricks’ life and set him on a path of purpose

— Why the "Zone of Genius" is essential for living a fulfilled life and practical ways to expand time spent there

— The power of "wondering" as a creative practice that invites solutions and insights

— How to overcome the fear of standing out and shining in your unique gifts

— The importance of commitment in creating lasting transformation in relationships and work

And more.

You can learn more about Dr. Hendricks’ work, books, and coaching programs at https://hendricks.com.

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Gay Hendricks is a psychologist, teacher, and writer known for his work in personal growth, relationships, and body-mind integration. After earning his PhD in psychology from Stanford University, he taught for over two decades at the University of Colorado, founded The Hendricks Institute with his wife Kathlyn, and has authored over 30 books including The Big Leap, Conscious Loving, and Five Wishes. His work emphasizes conscious breathing, emotional awareness, and transforming relationships. You can learn more about his work at https://hendricks.com.

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Interview Links:

— Dr. Hendricks' website: https://hendricks.com/

— Dr. Hendricks' book: https://amzn.to/4iwhP6A